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Old 01-06-2018, 07:30 AM
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Actually they were accused of being drunk for speaking in other tongues. Nothing else! Check it out.
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Old 01-06-2018, 07:25 AM
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And who pray tell are these present day Apostolics who are NOT teaching any heresy? Im waiting to hear this and have spent the last 37 years looking for them?
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So there is no church in the world that isn't heretical? Tell me more, please.
You did not answer my question. I asked you on the basis of what you have written about heresy on this forum, point me to an Apostolic Church that does not contain heresy.

Instead of answering the question you seem to be mocking. Now if you would please give me a list or even one Apostolic Church that to you at least (on the basis of what you have written of AFF) is pure with no heresy.
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Old 01-06-2018, 01:54 PM
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You did not answer my question. I asked you on the basis of what you have written about heresy on this forum, point me to an Apostolic Church that does not contain heresy.

Instead of answering the question you seem to be mocking. Now if you would please give me a list or even one Apostolic Church that to you at least (on the basis of what you have written of AFF) is pure with no heresy.
For this question to be answered, you would therefore have to come under the same criteria.

Honestly, how much heresy is in your church?
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Old 01-06-2018, 02:34 PM
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For this question to be answered, you would therefore have to come under the same criteria.

Honestly, how much heresy is in your church?
None.
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Old 01-06-2018, 02:49 PM
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None.
Thank you. I totally appreciate your honesty.

So, when you say heresy, only you can determine heresy. In your mind an Apostolic Church is heretical. Therefore any minister in an Apostolic church is heretical. Because you asked the question which would indicate that one cannot find an Apostolic church which does not contain some measure of heresy.

Now, that we got that all out of the way how do you suggest we all come to your salvation? That isn't me being my sarcastic self, I'm asking a very important question. Since we do have people on this forum that you know disagree with you on different levels. How can we be saved and come to the exact same knowledge as you? Like the Two Witness Prophets? The Man Child Ministry? How many people need to know and understand these two teachings? Again, I appreciate your honest answer you gave, would just like to know your beliefs on the rest.
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Old 01-06-2018, 03:07 PM
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Thank you. I totally appreciate your honesty.

So, when you say heresy, only you can determine heresy. In your mind an Apostolic Church is heretical. Therefore any minister in an Apostolic church is heretical. Because you asked the question which would indicate that one cannot find an Apostolic church which does not contain some measure of heresy.

Now, that we got that all out of the way how do you suggest we all come to your salvation? That isn't me being my sarcastic self, I'm asking a very important question. Since we do have people on this forum that you know disagree with you on different levels. How can we be saved and come to the exact same knowledge as you? Like the Two Witness Prophets? The Man Child Ministry? How many people need to know and understand these two teachings? Again, I appreciate your honest answer you gave, would just like to know your beliefs on the rest.
Dom,

Note the boldened. I never at all said that. However if you took the things I said to mean that be assured I dont think an Apostolic Church or Apostolic minister is necessarily heretical.

I know a few that are not. Personally I think most ARE in foundation doctrine. Esaias was seemingly making a point that if a group teaches heretical doctrine their worship cannot be of God.

I responded if that be the case how many Apostolic Churches could he really worship with since according to his criteria they may be hard to find. I suspect that he may sing songs written by people HE considers as heretics.

While I believe the second coming doctrine IS foundational I dont believe the knowledge of every detail of it is.

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11] And he said, Go forth, and stand upon the mount before the LORD. And, behold, the LORD passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains, and brake in pieces the rocks before the LORD; but the LORD was not in the wind: and after the wind an earthquake; but the LORD was not in the earthquake:
[12] And after the earthquake a fire; but the LORD was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice.
[13] And it was so, when Elijah heard it, that he wrapped his face in his mantle, and went out, and stood in the entering in of the cave. And, behold, there came a voice unto him, and said, What doest thou here, Elijah?

Sometimes, I fear that we’ going for the earthquake, the wind and the �� fire, and we are missing the still small voice.
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11] And he said, Go forth, and stand upon the mount before the LORD. And, behold, the LORD passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains, and brake in pieces the rocks before the LORD; but the LORD was not in the wind: and after the wind an earthquake; but the LORD was not in the earthquake:
[12] And after the earthquake a fire; but the LORD was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice.
[13] And it was so, when Elijah heard it, that he wrapped his face in his mantle, and went out, and stood in the entering in of the cave. And, behold, there came a voice unto him, and said, What doest thou here, Elijah?

Sometimes, I fear that we’ going for the earthquake, the wind and the �� fire, and we are missing the still small voice.

Oooh preach
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11] And he said, Go forth, and stand upon the mount before the LORD. And, behold, the LORD passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains, and brake in pieces the rocks before the LORD; but the LORD was not in the wind: and after the wind an earthquake; but the LORD was not in the earthquake:
[12] And after the earthquake a fire; but the LORD was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice.
[13] And it was so, when Elijah heard it, that he wrapped his face in his mantle, and went out, and stood in the entering in of the cave. And, behold, there came a voice unto him, and said, What doest thou here, Elijah?

Sometimes, I fear that we’ going for the earthquake, the wind and the �� fire, and we are missing the still small voice.
Or pride prevents us from being expressive
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