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07-09-2008, 11:32 AM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
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Sounds like you are either a cigar/pipe man, or a big fan of Bill Clinton. 
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It was a reference to Bill Clinton.
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07-09-2008, 11:42 AM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
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Yes, but I didn't inhale.
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Haha.........I did inhale for many years and then I quit for a year (in my nonChristian days) and restarted. I had pneumonia twice and bronchitis. I'd cough up junk in the morning from my lungs but I didn't develop that coarse voice many long time smokers have.
I became physically ill when I started smoking again, I felt like vomiting every time I smoked but I persisted until my body adapted!!! Stupid, I know.
When I became a Christian, the urge to smoke was totally gone after I was baptized. I wasn't saved in a church and it was a few months before I found believers to fellowship with. It took me a year to find an Apostolic church. So the conviction I felt about smoking cigarettes was not because of preaching nor peer pressure. I struggled for about 9 months before I finally quit for good. God graciously gave me deliverance despite myself.
Smoking defiles our bodies which are the dwelling place of God.
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07-09-2008, 11:42 AM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
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Pro31:28
true but at what point is sin not pointed out? Again as I pointed out earlier in this thread, why do many not eat after God's dietary laws? Those where given to keep us from defiling our health yet most churches today ignore them like they never mattered. Seems to me God wants to make you full in all areas of life. So to me why do we ignore God's Word when it comes to his dietary laws?
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I can agree with the idea that the dietary laws in the Bible are a good guide for our eating habits, with one exception. Today's pork is very different from what it was even 50 years ago. I saw a program on the History Channel that dealt with how much leaner and healthier today's pork is, compared with what it was years ago.
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07-09-2008, 11:43 AM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
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Haha.........I did inhale for many years and then I quit for a year (in my nonChristian days) and restarted. I had pneumonia twice and bronchitis. I'd cough up junk in the morning from my lungs but I didn't develop that coarse voice many long time smokers have.
I became physically ill when I started smoking again, I felt like vomiting every time I smoked but I persisted until my body adapted!!! Stupid, I know.
When I became a Christian, the urge to smoke was totally gone after I was baptized. I wasn't saved in a church and it was a few months before I found believers to fellowship with. It took me a year to find an Apostolic church. So I wasn't feeling convicted about smoking cigarettes because of preaching nor because of peer pressure. I struggled for about 9 months before I finally quit for good. God graciously gave me deliverance but I had snubbed.
Smoking defiles our bodies which are the dwelling place of God.
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So God lives in your lungs?
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07-09-2008, 11:49 AM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
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So God lives in your lungs?
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Apparently, He lives there but not in the arteries, seeing as how it's ok to eat whatever we want until they become clogged. Smokers are rank sinners without the Holy Ghost, but those who eat fried chicken 3 times a week are holy and righteous.
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07-09-2008, 11:55 AM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
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Apparently, He lives there but not in the arteries, seeing as how it's ok to eat whatever we want until they become clogged. Smokers are rank sinners without the Holy Ghost, but those who eat fried chicken 3 times a week are holy and righteous.
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You guys took away my cigarettes and now my fried chicken?
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07-09-2008, 11:58 AM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
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You guys took away my cigarettes and now my fried chicken?
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Yup. Next we're coming after your sugar.
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07-09-2008, 11:59 AM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
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Originally Posted by Rico
I can agree with the idea that the dietary laws in the Bible are a good guide for our eating habits, with one exception. Today's pork is very different from what it was even 50 years ago. I saw a program on the History Channel that dealt with how much leaner and healthier today's pork is, compared with what it was years ago.
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Rico,
sorry but I disagree you are missing the point on pork. They don't sweat and do not eliminate the toxins from the body among just the few issues that are naturally inherent. The meat might be better in some things but it still is very tainted not including the parasitic aspects.
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07-09-2008, 12:05 PM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
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Rico,
sorry but I disagree you are missing the point on pork. They don't sweat and do not eliminate the toxins from the body among just the few issues that are naturally inherent. The meat might be better in some things but it still is very tainted not including the parasitic aspects.
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Arise Peter kill and eat...
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07-09-2008, 12:06 PM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
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Yup. Next we're coming after your sugar. 
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Quick hide the salt.
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