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10-07-2009, 10:12 AM
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Incredible India
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Re: DKB: The Leader
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
I guess we can have communion and footwashing...ha...love you folks...and by the way WE ARE ALL FAMILY...
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****Sorry I am going to hijack his thread for a minute-****
Sister Alvear I am so excited about you coming and being with us in February!
Yay! I love you! Our church is going to love you too! I hope it all works out for sure-I hope you don't mind me saying something!
*hugs!*
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10-07-2009, 10:57 AM
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crakjak
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Re: DKB: The Leader
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
I am not going to get into this again, except to say - you are right - I handled it badly. I do want to share this though. Someone pointed out to me that my post to Sis. Alvear sounded like a rebuke. I looked it up to see where I stood on that and I found out that I was wrong in my presentation to her. The only portion of scripture that has always stood out in my mind when I hear "rebuke" is "Rebuke not an elder".
I never really paid attention to verse 2 - "The elder women as mothers...". That is important and I was a little surprised that I forgot about it or overlooked it.
"Rebuke" means to "chastise or upbraid" and "intreat" means to "call near, invite, comfort, pray".
1 Timothy 5:1 "Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren; (2) The elder women as mothers; the younger as sisters, with all purity.
She is my elder and I didn't treat her like I would my own mother. I was wrong.
Having said that, I feel I must point out that you have a "formed" opinion of the information given, i.e., "just because he acted as one one time in his life." That is the point that I was trying to get across - opinions would be formed by a one-sided story.
Now, again, I will agree with your assessment of my actions, but I did apologize to Sis. Alvear for that and that's all I have to say on this subject. |
Well said, PO, you are restored, the Word works like that, I have to remember that. Blessings to you!
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10-07-2009, 04:03 PM
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Location: just north of the celtics red sox and patriots go baby!
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Re: DKB: The Leader
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
All on mhy part is ok...I spoke without even thinking...I am so carnal...anyway on my part all is well.
I think DB is one of the most intelligent men in Pentecost...it was as I said a little incident that hurt me and left a impression on me however I KNOW we all make mistakes and I just felt like he should have called us or talked to us personally without sending us the letter he did...but like I said many years ago independent people were in a different light than today...although I have always had and have many precious UPC friends and all know I have always defended the UPC when people have spoken evil about them...
They have a wonderful missions program and I deeply admire them and many of their missionaries...
PO once again I am sorry for this misunderstanding...Please forgive my unthoughtfulness.
...and as I said if I were a voting member that is who would have got my vote !
Blessings and love to you.
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sis alvear this is bro pm just wishing you a good weekend, GOD BLESS!  just kidding folks !
Last edited by oletime; 10-07-2009 at 04:08 PM.
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10-07-2009, 05:28 PM
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Re: DKB: The Leader
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Originally Posted by rgcraig
...oh wait - he's already won!
Did I mention I went to JCM with his sister?
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I not only went to JCM with her but I drove her to the Emergency Room when she almost cut her thumb off working in the cafeteria!
Whatever happened to her? Did she marry a preacher?
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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10-07-2009, 05:30 PM
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Re: DKB: The Leader
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Originally Posted by CC1
I not only went to JCM with her but I drove her to the Emergency Room when she almost cut her thumb off working in the cafeteria!
Whatever happened to her? Did she marry a preacher?
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Whatever happened to her thumb? Did it wind up in the chili?
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10-07-2009, 05:33 PM
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Re: DKB: The Leader
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Originally Posted by pelathais
Whatever happened to her thumb? Did it wind up in the chili?
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I wanted to watch while they sewed her up. She literally had meat hanging out of her thumb that looked like raw hamburger meat. I was intently watching the Dr. and nurse and didn't realize I was about to pass out.
The nurse looked up at me and said "Do you think maybe you ought to sit down?". At that point I realized I was very lightheaded and was probably pretty pale. I looked away and sat down and was fine.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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10-07-2009, 05:37 PM
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My Family!
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Re: DKB: The Leader
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Originally Posted by CC1
I not only went to JCM with her but I drove her to the Emergency Room when she almost cut her thumb off working in the cafeteria!
Whatever happened to her? Did she marry a preacher?
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I'm friends with her on FB - I'll send a request to her to ask you to be her friend. Yes, she's married to a preacher.
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10-07-2009, 06:11 PM
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^ = A_Post-Modern
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Re: DKB: The Leader
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Originally Posted by Baron1710
That's a scary picture you paint. Sounds more like a Mafia Don than a GS.
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Am I the only one that finds it ironic that he has a law degree?
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10-07-2009, 06:18 PM
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Re: DKB: The Leader
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Originally Posted by CC1
I wanted to watch while they sewed her up. She literally had meat hanging out of her thumb that looked like raw hamburger meat. I was intently watching the Dr. and nurse and didn't realize I was about to pass out.
The nurse looked up at me and said "Do you think maybe you ought to sit down?". At that point I realized I was very lightheaded and was probably pretty pale. I looked away and sat down and was fine.
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Oh, good! You were fine.
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10-07-2009, 06:19 PM
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Re: DKB: The Leader
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Originally Posted by A_PoMo
Am I the only one that finds it ironic that he has a law degree?
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You can make a lot out of that - or you can do what DKB did his law degree and make nothing out it at all.
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