You most likely have gray hair because you are scared out of your mind that you need to stash a weapon in your house. How long will it take you to get to it? If you're sleeping and they don't get the make on you will you reach it in time? If you are out and about and you're attacked what will you do since you don't have your weapon? More than one attacker outside your home what do you do?
Trusting in the words of Jesus will help you out in the long run. Do you believe that Jesus can perform miracles today? Just asking.
you crack up me bro benincasa, thanks for all the concern, i am sure the lord will take care of me or give the grace to do it myself, i feel the love, take care, dt
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A product of a pentecostal raisin, I am a hard man, just ask my children
So why do you think he say give place unto wrath? Could it be he is talking about being angry? About being offended?
God's principals don't change. If He allowed men to protect their families in the OT, I believe He still allows men to protect their family today.
He is the same today, yesterday, and forever!
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Happy moments, PRAISE GOD.
Difficult moments, SEEK GOD.
Quiet moments, WORSHIP GOD.
Painful moments, TRUST GOD.
Every moment, THANK GOD.
To quote a Brother: "If a bullfrog had wings he wouldn't bump his tail every time he hopped."
Prayer is always the right and first option, deadly force is the option of last resort.
As to whether I "carry" or not is between me and Jesus, and the State......:sshhh
Just to ease your mind a bit, I have actually been assualted and did not lift a hand to stop it. I was told I could have used deadly force and been justified in the eyes of the Law. But I can not see killing a young man over things I consider trivial. I let him walk away and did not persue the matter. Some questioned me for that, I did not, because I did not want my name to be n the public record where if he came after me or my family and I might not have as much of the Holy Ghost and actually kill him,
The words of Jesus and His apostles were clear that we couldn’t repay evil with evil. I was raised around people who carried, and in their homes had enough weaponry to take on a Soviet attack. Some of these individuals met their fate in sorry ways. I have been in situation right down the block from my house and had a group of gang members try to rob me and walked right through the middle of them. I have gotten into altercations in other parts of Fort Lauderdale and Miami and have always had the Lord take full control. I have had criminals bang on my door at 3 o'clock in the AM and the Lord takes over again.
Jesus said if you were hit on one side of your face to are to offer the other also, which means very plainly that you are to offer the attacker full chance to hit you not only with the open palm, but also with the back of the hand.
It's in the book as plain as Acts 2:38 and the churches have a harder time with that than Trinitarians with Matthew 28:19
__________________ "all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
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you crack up me bro benincasa, thanks for all the concern,
Concern that you would most likely not make it to your weapon in time to use it? Anyone with any sense knows that is something they are not thinking of night and day. No one is waiting for the thief to come and break in, and so it's all about surprise. You ever heard of the individual who woke up to have a barrel pointing at his forehead? You see DT, no matter what you believe Jesus is the one who PROTECTS.
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i am sure the lord will take care of me or give the grace to do it myself,
You mean in the New Testament church that you are given grace to shoot an attacker? Do you speak in tongues before you pull the trigger? Does this all fall under "Be Ye Angry and Sin Not."
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i feel the love,
Oh, so what's that supposed to me DT?
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take care, dt
Ok.
__________________ "all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
Jesus told them that two swords were enough for twelve men? If that's the way you interpret that scripture than pick the two Christians in the entire world that should own the two guns.
After further consideration, when Jesus said "that is enough" I dont think he was saying 2 swords were enough. I think he was ending the conversation on the subject.
He has just commanded all without a sword, to sell what ever they needed and get one. I dont think he changed his mind.
simply he was done with talk about swords. it was enough that they had one.
EB, I do appreiate your faith. I make no challenge to you, nor would I seek to belittle your conviction.
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After further consideration, when Jesus said "that is enough" I dont think he was saying 2 swords were enough. I think he was ending the conversation on the subject.
He has just commanded all without a sword, to sell what ever they needed and get one. I dont think he changed his mind.
simply he was done with talk about swords. it was enough that they had one.
EB, I do appreiate your faith. I make no challenge to you, nor would I seek to belittle your conviction.
Jesus told James that's enough, when James lifted up two hot links to put in the Gumbo! We are going to be cooking up some Gumbo soon! Hooray!!!
What would be the best way to put chicken in the gumbo? Brothaaa! I'm going to put skrimps, skrimps, skrimps in that gumbo! How about turkey and chicken what do you think?
__________________ "all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
Jesus told James that's enough, when James lifted up two hot links to put in the Gumbo! We are going to be cooking up some Gumbo soon! Hooray!!!
What would be the best way to put chicken in the gumbo? Brothaaa! I'm going to put skrimps, skrimps, skrimps in that gumbo! How about turkey and chicken what do you think?
and add the skrimps to the pot dead last! I mean, add the skrimp and turn OFF de heat. let it stand for 10 minutes and all will be well. DO NOT OVER COOK THE SKRIMPS!
I made a turkey gumbo one year after thanks giving. it was good.
now go get a gun and shoot a criminal!
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Man, I've answsered that at least four times already. You are not out of bed yet.
I said that capital punishment which involves death, is not a function of the church. It is the function of government under its own laws. God recognizes the law of the land since he is the one that ordained it.
You still don't get it?
Brother Strange, YOU are the one NOT getting it.
PLEASE reread Duet 21.
Deuteronomy 21:18-21If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: (19) Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; (20) And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. (21) And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
Did you notice that it says the PARENTS are to make sure such a child is KILLED. So, are apostolic parents still responsable to do this? Remember, you said that it is the SAME God with the SAME judgments. So are rebellious children to be turned in by their parents for stoning?
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and add the skrimps to the pot dead last! I mean, add the skrimp and turn OFF de heat. let it stand for 10 minutes and all will be well. DO NOT OVER COOK THE SKRIMPS!
I'm going to pack that pot but good!
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I made a turkey gumbo one year after thanks giving. it was good.
__________________ "all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
It kind of leaves us who have offered to sacrificed life and blood for THEIR freedom but would not do the same for others, disheartened and disappointed.
The sacrifice for freedom and liberty that the Bible is concerned with is stated here:
Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. (2 Corinthians 3:17)
It is JESUS' sacrifice and His blood that brings mankind liberty, not our's.
The USA is neither a Christian's country nor their source of true freedom. Remember what happened when the Jews said they had no king but Caesar? So is your king then a president? PLEASE!
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The Bible is open to those that want Truth, and if they want Truth, they find Truth. They watch individuals squabble over Bible symbolism on the Internet, and leave the Message boards to enter into the real world where live people dwell, and they find Truth. The World Wide Web is full of Internet Ayatollahs who speak their mind. There is only one Truth, and it is not hidden. No matter what anyone says, Truth still converts the sincere. -DD Benincasa, 12/06/03
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