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12-24-2008, 12:15 PM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: Growing Up Mennonite
What you see is one thing real life at HH is another thing...My advice if it means anything is to...STAY AWAY...
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12-24-2008, 12:17 PM
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Re: Growing Up Mennonite
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What you see is one thing real life at HH is another thing...My advice if it means anything is to...STAY AWAY...
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I agree. I have never heard anything good about that group.
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12-24-2008, 09:30 PM
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Re: Growing Up Mennonite
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Would OOMs simply not evangelize by wanting "their light to shine" and that to be enough for people to get saved. Do the OOM and Amish see non-Anabaptists as saved?
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They do believe that some non-anabaptists are/will be saved.
Your analysis is at least partilly correct, though I would disagree with them - concerning the stance on evangelism.
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12-25-2008, 01:28 AM
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Re: Growing Up Mennonite
Ok, so now I am somewhat curious about this HH group, and I am going to draw a parallel, to further show my curiosity.
A couple years back, I came across the Rick Warren website, and I saw the Apostolic Pentecostal Church in Plaster Rock, NB as a church on their "cult" list. I went to this church's website, and I was thoroughly impressed, by the move of GOD it looked like they were having on their video clips, by the way they kept to holiness and whatnot. So I contacted the McKillops and I was surprised again by their friendliness, and the Bishop, who oversees over 500 souls in PR, let alone the churches they fellowship, when his son Damon was buying a trailer in MA, they stopped by and we had lunch together. I later went to their camp, two of their conventions, and I stayed with them last New Year's for 10 days. I don't agree with everything they teach, but they are some of the friendliest people, and Bro. Coon put it best this past annual convention, "Plaster Rock is one of the best kept secrets in North America, I dare say in all of Pentecost!" Had I brushed them off as a cult, I would have never met these people, and I had people from my old UPC church (there was a couple that lived in northern Maine, prior to moving to MA) and they told me... "Oh, brother, don't go there, you won't like it. Those people never smile, and they're so strict, ect. ect..." But they didn't have a substantial reason for me to discredit what I had seen and experienced in Plaster Rock.
Now, my question is this- what is the issue with HH? Do they deny the rest of the Body of Christ (their apostolic brethren)? Do they hold to some wacky doctrine (ie. divine flesh, serpent seed, ect...)? Do they have weird practices that harm their people (ie. public beatings, public interrogations of church members, financial dishonesty, ect...)?
If HH said they were the only ones saved, then I'd say, "Ok, they're bad news." Or if they did something blantantly wrong, then ok. But if they have some stricter than usual standards, like, "No denim" or "No watches" or "No deodorant", then, ok, I don't agree, and those standards are a bit different and above and beyond the norm, but they're not big enough deals for people to separate from them.
If someone feels I should start my own thread, feel free to let me know, but I figured since this group has some Anabaptist connection (although it seems faint) then they're fair game to be discussed here...
-Bro. Alex
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12-25-2008, 06:27 AM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: Growing Up Mennonite
This should be answerd in private not on this forum...there is a world of difference between plaster rock and HH...
Standards has nothing to do with it...
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12-25-2008, 07:53 AM
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Re: Growing Up Mennonite
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This should be answerd in private not on this forum...there is a world of difference between plaster rock and HH...
Standards has nothing to do with it...
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If anyone wants to fill me in via PM, I would appreciate it. Thanks!
-Bro. Alex
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12-25-2008, 10:38 AM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: Growing Up Mennonite
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If anyone wants to fill me in via PM, I would appreciate it. Thanks!
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not today as I have company but just remind me and I will...However it is a cult in evey sence of the word in my opinion. I know them very well and have in the past spent much time with them and traveled with them...that does not mean all the people are bad or anything like that...you could be there years and NOT really know what they really believe...
Alex, we may or may not agree on everything but I can tell from your posts you are very sincere...SON, if I may call you that...stay away...
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12-25-2008, 03:53 PM
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Re: Growing Up Mennonite
Alex, listen to Sis. Alvear. She has years of wisdom in her and has seen a little bit of everything under the sun. It's for your own protection.
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12-25-2008, 05:57 PM
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Re: Growing Up Mennonite
The last three posts are a fine example of what makes AFF a great place!
We have a seasoned missionary woman in South America conversing with a zealous, young conservative and a middleage progressive (liberal  ) and giving pertainent advice.
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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12-25-2008, 06:02 PM
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Re: Growing Up Mennonite
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The last three posts are a fine example of what makes AFF a great place!
We have a seasoned missionary woman in South America conversing with a zealous, young conservative and a middleage progressive (liberal ) and giving pertainent advice. |
Me a conservative? ... ok...  
-Bro. Alex
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