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Old 03-09-2014, 11:54 AM
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Pharisees will never, ever lose their religion. Not even the One who can love the most in the universe was able to help most of them "lose their religion".
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I actually agree, to a certain point, with the view that the 2 R's and P have in this thread. Women should not usurp authority over men, as it upsets the balance God instituted in the beginning of creation.

However, what is most concerning is the elitist attitude taken about their views. It is very detrimental to have perfect doctrine (Pharisees), yet take it too far (Pharisees) and then refuse to allow the love of God to transform their hearts, thus becoming white-washed seplechures of death that Jesus condemned. Jesus didn't come against their doctrine, he came against the attitudes they had about their doctrine. Jesus spoke more against the heart condition of the Pharisees, than their actual belief and practices. It is the very same problem evidenced here.
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There you have it ladies and gents, the moral of the story as just described is to swallow false doctrine and anti Biblical positions only with a sweet disposition. Please don't ever be guilty of setting yourself for the defense of the gospel, Phi 1:17, nor earnestly contend for THE faith, or overturn any tables and fashion any whips. Just smile and swallow any anti Biblical conclusion and say thank you!

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Old 03-09-2014, 09:17 PM
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There you have it ladies and gents, the moral of the story as just described is to swallow false doctrine and anti Biblical positions only with a sweet disposition. Please don't ever be guilty of setting yourself for the defense of the gospel, Phi 1:17, nor earnestly contend for THE faith, or overturn any tables and fashion any whips. Just smile and swallow any anti Biblical conclusion and say thank you!



Yes sir! Just keep drinking the koolaid... Who needs the bible when you can make it all up?
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Old 03-09-2014, 09:37 PM
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Do you think God speaks to women directly or through men only?
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Pharisees will never, ever lose their religion. Not even the One who can love the most in the universe was able to help most of them "lose their religion".
most of them, yes. but we have the most striking example in Paul, who must have been quite closely allied with him, if he wasn't outright one of them. he was their enforcer. We can't say 'never, ever-' tho i agree that ya, most of them would never be blessed with a confrontation of their faith due to their insulation. money usually causes separation from God.
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Stupid question. For whatever reason Barak was fearful. The men I know are not. In fact they stand against the onslaught of feminism and other societal evils. However, you have proven over and over that context means nothing to you so why should anyone expect you to accept the context now.

The Bible explicitly states she was a prophetess, meaning she was an instrument God used to give voice for His perspective.


This is nothing more than what has be stated by myself, RDP and RJR here that ALL saints should seek to be used of God in the gifts of the Spirit. Isn't it interesting that nowhere does it describe her exegeting passages. LOL indeed! Context means nothing to some. An perfect illustration for the saying "the mind is never so resourceful as when it is trying to justify itself". ROTFL!!!
And I will ask again, please give an example from scripture of a prophet (a man) 'exegeting scripture'.
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Stupid question. For whatever reason Barak was fearful. The men I know are not. In fact they stand against the onslaught of feminism and other societal evils. However, you have proven over and over that context means nothing to you so why should anyone expect you to accept the context now.

The Bible explicitly states she was a prophetess, meaning she was an instrument God used to give voice for His perspective.


This is nothing more than what has be stated by myself, RDP and RJR here that ALL saints should seek to be used of God in the gifts of the Spirit. Isn't it interesting that nowhere does it describe her exegeting passages. LOL indeed! Context means nothing to some. An perfect illustration for the saying "the mind is never so resourceful as when it is trying to justify itself". ROTFL!!!

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And I will ask again, please give an example from scripture of a prophet (a man) 'exegeting scripture'.

That is precisely the point. A prophetess does not expound from the scripture. Prophets/prophetesses are instruments God uses to give voice to His thoughts.


The Levites were to teach Israel the word of God:
(Deu 33:10 KJV) They [Levites] shall teach Jacob thy judgments, and Israel thy law: they shall put incense before thee, and whole burnt sacrifice upon thine altar.

(Lev 10:11 KJV) And that ye [Levites] may teach the children of Israel all the statutes which the LORD hath spoken unto them by the hand of Moses.

(2Ch 30:22 KJV) And Hezekiah spake comfortably unto all the Levites that taught the good knowledge of the LORD:
(2Ch 35:3 KJV) And said unto the Levites that taught all Israel,

(Eze 44:23 KJV) And they [Levites] shall teach my people the difference between the holy and profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean.



It was the duty of Israel to listen to everything they said:
(Deu 17:9 KJV) And thou shalt come unto the priests the Levites, and unto the judge that shall be in those days, and enquire; and they shall shew thee the sentence of judgment:
(Deu 17:10 KJV) And thou shalt do according to the sentence, which they of that place which the LORD shall choose shall shew thee; and thou shalt observe to do according to all that they inform thee:
(Deu 17:11 KJV) According to the sentence of the law which they shall teach thee, and according to the judgment which they shall tell thee, thou shalt do: thou shalt not decline from the sentence which they shall shew thee, to the right hand, nor to the left.

(Deu 24:8 KJV) Take heed in the plague of leprosy, that thou observe diligently, and do according to all that the priests the Levites shall teach you: as I commanded them, so ye shall observe to do.



And then there is this:
(Neh 8:4 KJV) And Ezra the scribe stood upon a pulpit of wood, which they had made for the purpose; and beside him stood Mattithiah, and Shema, and Anaiah, and Urijah, and Hilkiah, and Maaseiah, on his right hand; and on his left hand, Pedaiah, and Mishael, and Malchiah, and Hashum, and Hashbadana, Zechariah, and Meshullam.
(Neh 8:5 KJV) And Ezra opened the book in the sight of all the people; (for he was above all the people and when he opened it, all the people stood up:
(Neh 8:6 KJV) And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with lifting up their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the LORD with their faces to the ground.
(Neh 8:7 KJV) Also Jeshua, and Bani, and Sherebiah, Jamin, Akkub, Shabbethai, Hodijah, Maaseiah, Kelita, Azariah, Jozabad, Hanan, Pelaiah, and the Levites, caused the people to understand the law: and the people stood in their place.



Then of course we see a glimpse of synagogue where this takes place:
(Luk 4:14 KJV) And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.
(Luk 4:15 KJV) And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.
(Luk 4:16 KJV) And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
(Luk 4:17 KJV) And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,
(Luk 4:18 KJV) The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
(Luk 4:19 KJV) To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
(Luk 4:20 KJV) And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.
(Luk 4:21 KJV) And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.
(Luk 4:22 KJV) And all bare him witness, and wondered at the gracious words which proceeded out of his mouth. And they said, Is not this Joseph's son?

In the synagogue a man may read and exhort from the scriptural text, but not a woman.


A man can be a prophet or a preacher/teacher or both at the same time.
A woman may be a prophetess but never a preacher/teacher.



There is one scripture where a woman did teach:
(Rev 2:20 KJV) Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.



Fact:
Levites were teachers of Israel.
Fact a man could be a prophet, teacher or both.
Fact a woman was only a prophetess never a teacher of the Law. That was for the Levites.
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