When Fashion Controls the Church....

[Thad]

Originally Posted by CC1

Would you please explain to me how a tie is NOT adornment? It serves absolutely no practical purpose. It is strictly for decoration.

the bible says whose adorning let not be that of jewelry and costly array.
some ties probably cost too much and yes, I will agree that some pentecostals seem to ignore the admonishing against COSTLY ARRAY while condemning the other.
as far as the Neck tie, it's clothe and in our culture it represents a conservative Appearnace even by the standards of polite society

[OGIA]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

I think you are missing the point.

Don't we all think that of the other?


**The rest was a waste of 10 minutes of typing that I finally decided would lead nowhere.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Thad

the bible says whose adorning let not be that of jewelry and costly array.
some ties probably cost too much and yes, I will agree that some pentecostals seem to ignore the admonishing against COSTLY ARRAY while condemning the other.
as far as the Neck tie, it's clothe and in our culture it represents a conservative Appearnace even by the standards of polite society

If that scripture was a prohibition against jewelry and costly array then how come the other place this is mentioned in the Epistles doesn't have the word "costly" in front of apparel? It simply says apparel. It is quite clear the scripture is simply saying that what is most important in a person is not what they are dressed with but their inner character, christian values, etc.

Another instance of a gross misunderstanding of scripture, especially as the construction of the verbage of that day dealt with contrasts in a way we don't today.

I suppose you also think Jesus wants us to hate our mothers, brothers, etc?

[Newman]

Originally Posted by keith4him

You should read the article by the esteemed Ed Stetzer, on this tension. I am all for dressing up, matter of fact if it was up to me I would do all the time, but I am a fisherman and I have to bait my hook with what draws the fish.

Ah... but which fish?

[Pastor Keith]

Well I have taken this as far as I am able, good thoughts and discussion from all, rather civil, which is nice for a change.

[RevDWW]

When fashion controls a church, repentance is in order from the sin of Idolatry. A church is in deep trouble when it's not controled by Jesus.

Nothing wrong with dressing in your best. Just don't let it control you.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by keith4him

Well I have taken this as far as I am able, good thoughts and discussion from all, rather civil, which is nice for a change.

Shutup you stupid moron!!!! How dare you state your opinion!!!

[Newman]

Originally Posted by keith4him

Well I have taken this as far as I am able, good thoughts and discussion from all, rather civil, which is nice for a change.

keith4him- I pray that God continues to bless your fishing venture.

[Whole Hearted]

Originally Posted by Thad

Randy,

I know exactly where you are coming from. we are from the same area. there are more than one daughter in our area that out dress everyone in their churches. we know where they go to shop in the city right? don't think some of their people don't notice and don't talk about the lifelstyles, the country clubs, the cars, neiman marcus,etc BUT they are conservative?? I'm not getting it. can someone fill in the blanks?
The picture that the world is seeing sums up with one word" INCONSISTANT!

I will agree, this is inconsistent. It is one thing to dress nice and another to spent lots of money on clothes cars. and lifestyle. I believe that we will be judged for such thing. I would not feel right in expensive suits and ties. I know guys ( they are libs. and cons.) that spent $50 to $80 for neck ties. I believe this is costly array. I could never do this. I also won't go to expensive restaurants and spend alot of money, just don't feel right about it.

[Newman]

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

I will agree, this is inconsistent. It is one thing to dress nice and another to spent lots of money on clothes cars. and lifestyle. I believe that we will be judged for such thing. I would not feel right in expensive suits and ties. I know guys ( they are libs. and cons.) that spent $50 to $80 for neck ties. I believe this is costly array. I could never do this. I also won't go to expensive restaurants and spend alot of money, just don't feel right about it.

With all due respect; how can one say for sure what they would do if they never earned the kind of money that allows such an expenditure without blinking?

Costly array is in the eye of the beholder. Let us not forget that even as the woman of Proverbs reached out her hand to the poor; her own clothing was silk and purple.