Submission? Or Power and Control?

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

You might want to dial it back a few notches, Annie.

Just refuting false claims Peggy Sue.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Yeah, typical female... "What, who me?" blink, blink

Oh well, I saw it, and I laughed out loud quicker than I could type lol.

[Esaias]

Where's the popcorn? With extra butter?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Not all Texans can barbeque, or wear cool boots like preachers in Ogden Utah.

Say what????

lol

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Have no idea what this means.

It has nothing to do with our discussion.

The Greek word means instantly, or instantaneous time.

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Oh, so like ILG, you had this experience. Listen, we didn't know anything about RR, never heard her name - YET - we were taught to put faith in the healing power of our hair and that our submission gave that to us.

Who is WE?

We weren't taught about using one's hair as a talismen. I can find noting in the UPCI ministerial manual advocating talismen hair. UPC has no official position on a woman's hair being able to contact angelic beings. Therefore if someone taught you that and you believed it, well, I'm sorry to hear this. Yet, I'm happy that you no longer believe that when a bell rings an angel gets his wings.

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Once in prayer, I was crying out to God, "See, I haven't cut my hair." In that moment, I realized it was about my love and faith in Jesus Christ. My hair wasn't what would get me through that trial. I never focused on my hair ever again after that time in prayer.




What I am saying is that I know a lot of women who don't cut their hair, however they can't explain why because it doesn't make sense. It has always been confusing to them. They thought their walk was about Acts 2:38. And especially a life with Jesus Christ having the indwelling spirit.

Sis, I have met people who can't explain eschatology, why they believe what they believe. People who can't explain the godhead, can't explain why Jesus is who He said He is. People who had been in the church longer than I've been alive who believe is some far out unbiblical stuff. Yet, all that means is that are wrong, and never felt a need to correct their wrongness. Also they are wrong but sincere about their wrongness, but never understood why they are wrong.

I knew people who would pray for a person's home and smear olive oil all over the lintels and window sills. I stopped a couple and asked them to show me where they found that exercise in the Bible.

People are people, and in religion, no matter what the religion may be, people are content to just sponge up what comes over the podium unquestioned. People who sit for years on a pew and don't believe in some things their preacher is preaching to them. But whose fault is that?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Just refuting false claims Peggy Sue.

You go sister!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Say what????

lol

I ate at a place in El Campo Texas, it's called Mikeska's Bar-B-Q & Catering. It was drier than a mummy's pocket. I'm use to eating Florida, Georgia, Alabama, and Louisiana Bar-B-Q. I think Louisiana cooks could even make an old work boot taste good. Brother Scott Grihm cooks an awesome gumbo, and smoked boudin that would make you see visions and dream dreams. He is originally from the Beaumont area. I think he had ancestry from Louisiana.

[Amanah]

If there is false doctrine being taught, then it is good to see what the bible actually teaches and hold fast to that, and refute error.

But to say that because a few are teaching incorrectly that a whole organization should be discounted is cutting to deeply with possible serious repercussions, and possibly souls at stake.

There are people on this thread who have been hurt by the UPC and yet have the personal integrity to see that souls are at stake and are putting their hurt aside to be cautious as to not cause a brother or sister to fall.

There are others who seem to have no care for repercussions and are self centered in their concern.

I am not here to defend an organization per se. I spent the majority of my walk with the Lord in an independent Apostolic Church, before joining a UPC church. Let me just say up front UPC is very moderate in comparison.

My strong feelings on certain subjects are not because I want to hurt people's feelings, or defend an organization, it's because I have a concern for people losing their footing and finding themselves confused or even lost.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Amanah

If there is false doctrine being taught, then it is good to see what the bible actually teaches and hold fast to that, and refute error.

But to say that because a few are teaching incorrectly that a whole organization should be discounted is cutting to deeply with possible serious repercussions, and possibly souls at stake.

There are people on this thread who have been hurt by the UPC and yet have the personal integrity to see that souls are at stake and are putting their hurt aside to be cautious as to not cause a brother or sister to fall.

There are others who seem to have no care for repercussions and are self centered in their concern.

I am not here to defend an organization per se. I spent the majority of my walk with the Lord in an independent Apostolic Church, before joining a UPC church. Let me just say up front UPC is very moderate in comparison.

My strong feelings on certain subjects are not because I want to hurt people's feelings, or defend an organization, it's because I have a concern for people losing their footing and finding themselves confused or even lost.

[phareztamar]

Originally Posted by Amanah

If there is false doctrine being taught, then it is good to see what the bible actually teaches and hold fast to that, and refute error.

But to say that because a few are teaching incorrectly that a whole organization should be discounted is cutting to deeply with possible serious repercussions, and possibly souls at stake.

There are people on this thread who have been hurt by the UPC and yet have the personal integrity to see that souls are at stake and are putting their hurt aside to be cautious as to not cause a brother or sister to fall.

There are others who seem to have no care for repercussions and are self centered in their concern.

I am not here to defend an organization per se. I spent the majority of my walk with the Lord in an independent Apostolic Church, before joining a UPC church. Let me just say up front UPC is very moderate in comparison.

My strong feelings on certain subjects are not because I want to hurt people's feelings, or defend an organization, it's because I have a concern for people losing their footing and finding themselves confused or even lost.

Great post. I see Christ in you.