What's your view on Hell?

[Amanah]

Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul_in_the_Bible

The traditional concept of an immaterial and immortal soul distinct from the body was not found in Judaism before the Babylonian exile,[1] but developed as a result of interaction with Persian and Hellenistic philosophies.[2] Accordingly, the Hebrew word נֶ֫פֶשׁ‎, nephesh, although translated as "soul" in some older English Bibles, actually has a meaning closer to "living being". Nephesh was rendered in the Septuagint as ψυχή (psūchê), the Greek word for soul. The New Testament also uses the word ψυχή, but with the Hebrew meaning and not the Greek.[3]

The textual evidence indicates a multiplicity of perspectives on these issues including probable changes during the centuries in which the biblical corpus developed.[4]

Traditional Christianity
In Patristic thought, towards the end of the 2nd century, psūchê had begun to be understood in a more Greek than a Hebrew way, contrasted with the body. By the 3rd century, with the influence of Origen, the traditions of the inherent immortality of the soul and its divine nature were established.[32] As the new Encyclopædia Britannica points out: “The early Christian philosophers adopted the Greek concept of the soul’s immortality and thought of the soul as being created by God and infused into the body at conception.”[33] Inherent immortality of the soul was accepted among western and eastern theologians throughout the Middle Ages, and after the Reformation, as evidenced by the Westminster Confession.[34]

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Both the old and new testament are inspired by God. God breathed into man and man became a living being denied immortality by not having access to the tree of life due to sin.

The blessed hope of the gospel is resurrection to eternal life. The tree of life at the end of Revelation.

The wages of sin is death. The unjust will be resurrected to face judgment and the second death, annihilation.

I thought you were fulfilled eschatologist. Guess not.

[1 God]

The annihilation doctrine does away with hell and judgement. Instant disintegration of wicked humans and devils is anti-scripture. Everlasting contempt at judgement is not “shame on you”...poof.

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Just to set the record straight, I'm in the conditional immortality/annihilation camp.

I had to look up what that even was. LOL!

Who comes up with these names?

Nothing against you sis. I just had to do a double take there.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by diakonos

I thought you were fulfilled eschatologist. Guess not.

Its probably best not to pick a label but just keep studying and learning.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

I had to look up what that even was. LOL!

Who comes up with these names?

Nothing against you sis. I just had to do a double take there.

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by 1 God

The annihilation doctrine does away with hell and judgement. Instant disintegration of wicked humans and devils is anti-scripture. Everlasting contempt at judgement is not “shame on you”...poof.

The greatest damnation is living a life without Jesus.

Sinners life are in a tormenting flame!

Ive heard the tormenting cry of a soul burning. In a couple churches Ive visited, Ive heard the cry, the agony that a man was praying at the alter. The pastor and the church thought he was being blessed, "he is being renewed". That just showed the spiritual blindness they have. Anyways, this man that was a pillar in the church would cry, and scream in a loud voice. The Lord showed me the agony he was in, as if a flame of fire was unquenched in his spirit.

Oh God give those that desire eyes into the spiritual.

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by coksiw

It looks like a fable to me. There is another one here: 2 Kings 14:9-10;

I think those are the only two ones in the entire Bible, BTW.

Do you believe these scriptures are fables or parables?

Job 1:6-12
6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
8 And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
9 Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
10 Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.
11 But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.
12 And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.

II Corinthians 12:2-4
2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth) such an one caught up to the third heaven.
3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth)
4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.

Do yo believe these scriptures as well to be fables or parables?

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Amanah

The parable of the rich man and Lazarus can't be true because . . .
after death no one is conscious until the resurection of the just and then the resurection and annihilation of the unjust in Revelation 20.

People are not lying around dead looking at each other and requesting upgraded accommodations. That is totally fictitious.

Not to mention that Abraham can't hear and answer prayer.

Matthew 13:10-11
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

There is only going to be certain amount of people that are going to understand the mysteries of the kingdom through parables.

What if the parables Jesus was speaking was that of ones spiritual condition?

The rich man and Lazarus, what if that was Jesus telling them there current spiritual condition rather than Jesus being sarcastic about a common tale being told at the time. He used something they were very familiar with and showed them what they could NOT see, hear, or understand... the things of the spirit!

As an example:

Luke 15:11-13
11 And he said, A certain man had two sons:
12 And the younger of them said to his father, Father, give me the portion of goods that falleth to me. And he divided unto them his living.
13 And not many days after the younger son gathered all together, and took his journey into a far country, and there wasted his substance with riotous living.

Would you believe that as a soul that leaves the fathers house they begin spending their inheritance? Relationships that they become one with, they leave a little portion of their inheritance with that person? It was only until the son had no more of the inheritance left, he finally came to himself.

Now with that said Im talking of a spiritual inheritance. Some backsliders have more to spend than others, but spent they do!

Parables are to allow the spiritual man to have understanding as to what is happening in the spirit. Sure the Lord brings an apology of a physical/natural dimension, yet it's for spiritual understanding.

[1 God]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

The greatest damnation is living a life without Jesus.

Sinners life are in a tormenting flame!

Ive heard the tormenting cry of a soul burning. In a couple churches Ive visited, Ive heard the cry, the agony that a man was praying at the alter. The pastor and the church thought he was being blessed, "he is being renewed". That just showed the spiritual blindness they have. Anyways, this man that was a pillar in the church would cry, and scream in a loud voice. The Lord showed me the agony he was in, as if a flame of fire was unquenched in his spirit.

Oh God give those that desire eyes into the spiritual.

That’s interesting, in my city I am surrounded by rich content sinners. There are few that say they are in hell that I have ever met. Great families etc.