Flippantly Flaunted Spiritual Liberties

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by rkentsmith

Dude.....

I would love the daylights out of you....

I would get you lost in the HG....

One day you would wake up and say to yourself I need to change some things in my life.....
Who knows....you might even take out your earings....

Respectfully RKent,
I was UPC for 17 years, I was baptized, and Holy ghost when I was seventeen years old.

I believed and lived the Holiness standards doctrines etc.

But over a period of one year I was understanding things from God I did not want to hear or see.

I thought it was the enemy wearing me down and I was scared and fought it.

I had several dreams from God.

Many of my brethren where seeing the same things. Even and elder sat down with me and Talked about doctrinal issues that are not bible, but manual and Org. founded.

My Pastor apologized for Pastoring so hard.

He said , he is afraid that we have put the manual above the Bible.

And that The We as a church might miss the Big move of God because we think we have earned it , and that we do not have the Corner on God's power or revival.

I moved to Texas shortly after, I have not been apart of UPC since then. I know God Has brought me out of UPC even though I fought it.

What I am getting to, is ...

I will never wake up and go back to what he has brought me out of.

I have been awakened and shook by God and all I have believed and trusted as far as UPC doctrines go; are not bible. Nor is it required of me to be saved.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by rrford

Forests and trees, forests and trees.


And that is the whole point of the thread. I am still amazed some aren't getting it.

I disagree. The point of this thread apparently was a nonsensical definition of the word "legalism". A definition that defies logic and credibility.

It was clear our dear Brother Kent was confusing judgmentalism with legalism.

(a pretty cool tactic learned from the Democrats though to just make up things and say it with a serious tone over and over so people will believe it)

[rrford]

Originally Posted by CC1

I disagree. The point of this thread apparently was a nonsensical definition of the word "legalism". A definition that defies logic and credibility.

It was clear our dear Brother Kent was confusing judgmentalism with legalism.

(a pretty cool tactic learned from the Democrats though to just make up things and say it with a serious tone over and over so people will believe it)

And I also disagree. If you read evey post he made you will sat he was merely stating that some who advocate liberty do so with a legalistic mindset. I have personally experienced such. I have also experienced true legalism form the "hard line standards keepers."

The definition is not what the impetus was; it is the application of the spirit of legalism, IMO.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by rrford

And I also disagree. If you read evey post he made you will sat he was merely stating that some who advocate liberty do so with a legalistic mindset. I have personally experienced such. I have also experienced true legalism form the "hard line standards keepers."

The definition is not what the impetus was; it is the application of the spirit of legalism, IMO.

Shut up and go put on shorts and play golf!!!!!

I demand you put down that fiction book and go see a movie! (or at least a DVD. I recommend "The Illusionist" or "The Presitge" or "Casino Royale").

[rrford]

Originally Posted by CC1

Shut up and go put on shorts and play golf!!!!!

I demand you put down that fiction book and go see a movie! (or at least a DVD. I recommend "The Illusionist" or "The Presitge" or "Casino Royale").

Legalist!

I do have a 1:30 tee time today. (No shorts or movies though.)

[Felicity]

For Bro. R Kent Smith..........

I AM apostolic. Have always been Apostolic. Will ALWAYS be Apostolic.

I've also always had convictions!

Just wanted to get that straight!

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Felicity

For Bro. R Kent Smith..........

I AM apostolic. Have always been Apostolic. Will ALWAYS be Apostolic.

I've also always had convictions!

Just wanted to get that straight!

Speaking of which we have to be close to a year or so from your angelic visitiation delivering that special edition of the Pentecostal Herald.

I had thought by now we would be seeing a new avatar pic of you complete with uncut hair bun!!!!! What happened?

Did TB keep you from changing your membership to the local UPC church?

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by rkentsmith

Atlanta bishop.....mean spirited.....this is a truly liberal chant from you...go ahead and call me homophobic.....

You are free to do what you want...but have proven that you go rabid just like the ultracons when someone challenges your spiritual condition.....

Apostolics did not come with a list of rules nor do they adhere to rules today.....

A true apostolic will live a very moderate life without the help of the rule list.....

But the apostolic will have rules in his life because he walks in the spirit....

And a true apostolic will not become rabid or accuse others of mean spiritism.......

You my friend have apparently backslid and become rabid when anyone of conviction passes by.....

I guess I missed the part about him calling you homophobic. Was that in a different post, or did you just read that into his comments?

And the part about Apostolics not needing rules? Come on, Bro., you're smarter than that! If they didn't, why do the Articles of Faith exist?

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by rrford

Legalist!

I do have a 1:30 tee time today. (No shorts or movies though.)

Not even a "short movie"?

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Brother Price

Some say that when someone holds to standards, they are adding to the Word. Horse hockey! 95% of all standards I have ever heard preached had scripture to back up the belief. I have heard some extra biblical standards, yes. Those I usually ignore. But, those which I hold to, I have scripture to add with them. So, the notion of standards as being extra biblical is nonsense and the attempts of certain individuals to go back into the world again.

Horses don't play hockey. List your stadards and scripture to back them. I'll get back to this in the evening.