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View Poll Results: Do you believe and/or teach that standards are heaven or hell issues?
Absolutely. I believe and teach that standards are heaven or hell issues. 11 19.30%
I believe that standards should be followed, but they do not necessarily affect salvation. 10 17.54%
I do not believe standards are salvational, but I teach them in compliance with the organization. 3 5.26%
I do not believe or teach that standards are salvational. 21 36.84%
I teach that standards are matters of consecration, but are not salvational. 11 19.30%
I don't know. 1 1.75%
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Old 04-19-2007, 09:20 AM
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Tammy Faye said she was so abused in her AG church where they did not believe in make up or women cutting their hair and had to wear dresses. But she got liberated. Who said she is not moderate?????????? I imagine she thinks she is?? Has anyone seen Jan in person??????????? I have she looked like a .................................................. .......... better not say but they come out at night.
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Old 04-19-2007, 09:43 AM
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Tammy Faye said she was so abused in her AG church where they did not believe in make up or women cutting their hair and had to wear dresses. But she got liberated. Who said she is not moderate?????????? I imagine she thinks she is?? Has anyone seen Jan in person??????????? I have she looked like a .................................................. .......... better not say but they come out at night.
So, she may not like your hat?
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Old 04-19-2007, 10:14 AM
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Lord help ya Coop if you stand before the throne one day with this attitude. If God has set a pastor over you, don't you think you should obey that pastor's teachings? Or, are you now among those who think they need no one but themselves to teach what the Bible says?
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Lord help ya Coop if you stand before the throne one day with this attitude.
Why do think this way? Why think Hell??

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If God has set a pastor over you, don't you think you should obey that pastor's teachings?
Not if they are extra-biblical and organizationally implemented.

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Or, are you now among those who think they need no one but themselves to teach what the Bible says?
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Old 04-19-2007, 10:15 AM
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If you're trying to put Beth Moore in the same category as Tammy Faye, that shows how insulated you are in your Pentecostal world. There is no comparison between the two.
I simply put in a wide range of looks; nothing more, nothing less. I've seen both and heard both. I see how messed up so many ladies at my work are for following Beth Moore. Sure, she moves some towards truth, and for that I am grateful and give God glory. But most of them are stuck in greasy grace and sinking deeper and deeper. I do know a God, though, who desires they know the truth, and He has put an Apostolic or two in various places in this hospital to help these who "think" they're eternally ok.



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I would love to have Beth Moore pray for me; she is not worldly in the least. She is an anointed teacher of the word who is reaching thousands of non-spirit filled people and stretching them to move into new places with God. She is reaching so many Baptists with the power of God that I would never criticize her. Does she understand everything? Of course not! But she is definitely being used by God.
Not sure what this has to do with my scenario, but ok.
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Old 04-19-2007, 10:50 AM
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Old 04-19-2007, 10:51 AM
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Old 04-19-2007, 11:37 AM
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I simply put in a wide range of looks; nothing more, nothing less. I've seen both and heard both. I see how messed up so many ladies at my work are for following Beth Moore. Sure, she moves some towards truth, and for that I am grateful and give God glory. But most of them are stuck in greasy grace and sinking deeper and deeper. I do know a God, though, who desires they know the truth, and He has put an Apostolic or two in various places in this hospital to help these who "think" they're eternally ok.
Ogia,
The emboldened part is an interesting comment that I've heard quite a bit. Could you elaborate on what you mean by "greasy grace"?
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Old 04-19-2007, 11:47 AM
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Some of you people would have a nervous breakdown at a ASME conference.
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