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Old 05-19-2007, 09:05 PM
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You don't think others might have done the same if they'd been in the same position? Just asking.
reguardless. any man who is president, who commits a felony under American law, should be impeached and run out of office. period. reguardless of party.
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Old 05-19-2007, 09:08 PM
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Bottom line it's going to be Julioni (sp?) as the republican nominee. that's my firm prediction.

It's going to be likely be Obama/hilary ticket and I think so far the Democrats are going to win this race
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Old 05-19-2007, 09:12 PM
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Bottom line it's going to be Julioni (sp?) as the republican nominee. that's my firm prediction.

It's going to be likely be Obama/hilary ticket and I think so far the Democrats are going to win this race
Fred Thompson has the republcan nomination if he
1 wants it
2 doesnt make any major mistakes.

Hillary likely will win the democrat nomination.

I think Thompson can beat her but there are some rublings that bloomberg (mayor of NY) is getting ready for a third party run. he has a billion dollars to spend and likely can pick off enough republican support for hillary to win by getting 43% of the vote. scary and eerily reminicent of the Bill Clinton wins.
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Old 05-19-2007, 09:16 PM
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Bottom line it's going to be Julioni (sp?) as the republican nominee. that's my firm prediction.

It's going to be likely be Obama/hilary ticket and I think so far the Democrats are going to win this race
I think you are probably right as far as the Dem ticket goes but I do not think Rudy will get the Republlican nomination. He is too far to the left for Republican primary voters despite the fact we all like his leadership skills. Here is why he won't get the nom;

1. Pro abortion
2. Heavily promoted restrictive gun control laws while Mayor of NYC
3. Endorsed and voted for the Democrat Gubenatorial canidate in New York state over the Republican one while he was the Republican Mayor of NYC.
4. Messy personal life. Three marriages and was living with one woman while still married to another.
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Old 05-20-2007, 05:35 PM
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This statement bothers me. it bothers me because GWB was able to get Tony Blair to join in Iraq. Blair being a labor guy at that. It bothers me because this view is so common based on France and Germany not agreeing to join in the actions in Iraq. France in particular needed Saddam to stay in power to hid the insanity of Frances involvenment in Iraq, and they took the oppurtunity to attempt to become the new world power. Germany fell in with france. I disagree completley with this assessment.
If I recall corrrectly, GWB had only visited one other foreign country before he became president. He was not up to par on world politics, which was surprising to me considering the roles his dad had filled through the years. I truly believe that GWB was not his own man because he had to rely so heavily upon the old school cronies from his father's administration. He needed to pay more attention to men like Colin Powell.

GWB made a major blunder by not exercising patience and allowing the UN to verify whether there were WMDs in Iraq.

It is true that Bush convinced Blair to join in the Iraqi War, but Tony Blair paid a great price for doing so. He had a great vision for modernizing Great Britain and had support of the nation. Sadly he never got to realize the fulfillment of his vision because of the unpopularity that resulted from his support of Bush and the Iraqi War.
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Old 05-20-2007, 05:42 PM
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Mitt Romney is the most "presidential" of all the repub candidates, but I think Guilliani has the best chance of winning. Too bad Mitt is Morman...just can't get past that little issue.

Guilliani might be able to effect the swing voters. I just can't stomach the idea of Hillary Clinton as Prez. Good Grief! HORRORS!!!
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Old 05-20-2007, 05:44 PM
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Mitt Romney is the most "presidential" of all the repub candidates, but I think Guilliani has the best chance of winning. Too bad Mitt is Morman...just can't get past that little issue.

Guilliani might be able to effect the swing voters. I just can't stomach the idea of Hillary Clinton as Prez. Good Grief! HORRORS!!!

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Old 05-20-2007, 05:46 PM
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If I recall corrrectly, GWB had only visited one other foreign country before he became president. He was not up to par on world politics, which was surprising to me considering the roles his dad had filled through the years. I truly believe that GWB was not his own man because he had to rely so heavily upon the old school cronies from his father's administration. He needed to pay more attention to men like Colin Powell.

GWB made a major blunder by not exercising patience and allowing the UN to verify whether there were WMDs in Iraq.

It is true that Bush convinced Blair to join in the Iraqi War, but Tony Blair paid a great price for doing so. He had a great vision for modernizing Great Britain and had support of the nation. Sadly he never got to realize the fulfillment of his vision because of the unpopularity that resulted from his support of Bush and the Iraqi War.
You, like much of the world now, seem to have amnesia as to what was going on back then. Iraq was circumventing the inspections for WMD. They were limiting where the inspectors could go and delaying them many times so that they had time to hide or move things from the sites being checked.

The other major fact that so many seem to have amnesia on now or who were never plugged into geopolitics enough to understand is that the embargo against Iraq was crumbling. Countries like France and Russia who were doing big business with Iraq before the embargo were actively campaigning to weaken or completely drop the embargo. With that gone Sadamm had zero incentive for cooperating at all.
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Old 05-20-2007, 06:20 PM
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You, like much of the world now, seem to have amnesia as to what was going on back then. Iraq was circumventing the inspections for WMD. They were limiting where the inspectors could go and delaying them many times so that they had time to hide or move things from the sites being checked.

The other major fact that so many seem to have amnesia on now or who were never plugged into geopolitics enough to understand is that the embargo against Iraq was crumbling. Countries like France and Russia who were doing big business with Iraq before the embargo were actively campaigning to weaken or completely drop the embargo. With that gone Sadamm had zero incentive for cooperating at all.
The bottom line is Saddam Hussein was not at that time a major threat to the USA! There was no compelling reason to disregard the UN on the matter of waiting until there was indisputeable evidence of WMDs.
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Old 05-20-2007, 06:55 PM
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I got my current issue of TIME magazine, and they proclaimed Rudy as the winner of the last debate!
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