Replacement Theology Man Highlights

Sean · #1 10-10-2015, 12:10 AM

This is really how goofy preterism views Ezekiel.....

The prophet was told in (Ezekial 37-45 etc) that these promises were for NATIONAL Israel, The prophet Ezekiel in turn, told Gods' people that the promises were for them also.

Come to find out(according to preterists)...God lied in the first place(metaphorized), and said...."oh by the way, I was talking about the future church, not you guys"....LOL

When the preterist lies to his children, he just tells them he was "metaphorizing" about what he said.

However, the kids still think he was a liar, though they will never say it to his preterist face...LOL

He wont "metaphorize" when he spanks them...LOL

met·a·phor
ˈmedəˌfôr,ˈmedəˌfər/
noun
a figure of speech in which a word or phrase is applied to an object or action to which it is not literally applicable.
"“I had fallen through a trapdoor of depression,” said Mark, who was fond of theatrical metaphors"
synonyms: figure of speech, image, trope, analogy, comparison, symbol, word painting/picture
"the profusion of metaphors in her everyday speech has gotten pretty tiresome"
a thing regarded as representative or symbolic of something else, especially something abstract.
"the amounts of money being lost by the company were enough to make it a metaphor for an industry that was teetering"

The book of Ezekiel was a "metaphor"(lie) to Israel?

LOL

Mama..daddy is "metaphorizing" again!(he spanked me for calling him a liar)

He said he would play catch with me and now he wont! He said he meant something else!

Dont worry son, we know daddy has a little "metaphorizing" problem, I will play catch with you...LOL

Sean · #2 10-10-2015, 12:13 AM

The preterist cannot realize that multiple, entire books were written to, and only to the Jewish nation concerning a future, restored israel at a later time in the future. They all waited in anticipation for this treasured event to occur.

The preterist will not allow the Jew to have a future prophetic Israel, but they think THEY are the replacement to the Jewish prophecies.

The preterist is saying that God(metaphorized/LIED) to the prophets from day 1 of their prophecies. Then God allowed the many centuries of Jews all the way to the time of Christ to believe the same LIE.

These prophets NEVER even insinuated that the 'future Gentile church" would replace the Jew in these prophecies.

Therefore it is the preterist VS the prophets in these arguments.

And trust me...the preterists will lose this debate with the prophets miserably.

That is why I take these verses literal and DARE NOT try to "metaphorize"(Lie) and say they meant something else to the actual O.T. reader.

The preterist believes that these Jews were under a false impression of a future restored Israel for at least 500 years.(then they get bent out of shape when we say they thought the "last days" prophecies of Jesus' coming were misunderstood)...LOL

Sean · #3 10-13-2015, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean

The preterist cannot realize that multiple, entire books were written to, and only to the Jewish nation concerning a future, restored israel at a later time in the future. They all waited in anticipation for this treasured event to occur.

The preterist will not allow the Jew to have a future prophetic Israel, but they think THEY are the replacement to the Jewish prophecies.

The preterist is saying that God(metaphorized/LIED) to the prophets from day 1 of their prophecies. Then God allowed the many centuries of Jews all the way to the time of Christ to believe the same LIE.

These prophets NEVER even insinuated that the 'future Gentile church" would replace the Jew in these prophecies.

Therefore it is the preterist VS the prophets in these arguments.

And trust me...the preterists will lose this debate with the prophets miserably.

That is why I take these verses literal and DARE NOT try to "metaphorize"(Lie) and say they meant something else to the actual O.T. reader.

The preterist believes that these Jews were under a false impression of a future restored Israel for at least 500 years.(then they get bent out of shape when we say they thought the "last days" prophecies of Jesus' coming were misunderstood)...LOL

Recap!

Bowas · #4 10-13-2015, 01:34 PM

Sean. You said, "These prophets NEVER even insinuated that the 'future Gentile church" would replace the Jew in these prophecies."

I challenge you to find one preterist that believes in a "Gentile Church" past, present or future.

Once you have exhausted your time in futility, show me one prophet or Apostle that even proposed a "Gentile Church" past, present or future.

Sean · #5 10-13-2015, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean

The preterist cannot realize that multiple, entire books were written to, and only to the Jewish nation concerning a future, restored israel at a later time in the future. They all waited in anticipation for this treasured event to occur.

The preterist will not allow the Jew to have a future prophetic Israel, but they think THEY are the replacement to the Jewish prophecies.

The preterist is saying that God(metaphorized/LIED) to the prophets from day 1 of their prophecies. Then God allowed the many centuries of Jews all the way to the time of Christ to believe the same LIE.

These prophets NEVER even insinuated that the 'future church" would replace the Jew in these prophecies.

Therefore it is the preterist VS the prophets in these arguments.

And trust me...the preterists will lose this debate with the prophets miserably.

That is why I take these verses literal and DARE NOT try to "metaphorize"(Lie) and say they meant something else to the actual O.T. reader.

The preterist believes that these Jews were under a false impression of a future restored Israel for at least 500 years.(then they get bent out of shape when we say they thought the "last days" prophecies of Jesus' coming were misunderstood)...LOL

Correction noted

Sean · #6 10-10-2015, 12:15 AM

Duh, hey brother preterist, check this one out....

Ezekiel 37 King James Version (KJV)

37 The hand of the Lord was upon me, and carried me out in the spirit of the Lord, and set me down in the midst of the valley which was full of bones,

2 And caused me to pass by them round about: and, behold, there were very many in the open valley; and, lo, they were very dry.

3 And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord God, thou knowest.

4 Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the Lord.

5 Thus saith the Lord God unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live:

Duh, this is about the church being restored..I think?

7 So I prophesied as I was commanded: and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold a shaking, and the bones came together, bone to his bone.

8 And when I beheld, lo, the sinews and the flesh came up upon them, and the skin covered them above: but there was no breath in them.

9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord God; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.

10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army.

11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.

12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

Gee, Duh, I think it is about the church???

Hmmm...wait a minute, can it be restored when it did not exist yet?.....Help, Im confused!!!

LOL

Sean · #7 10-10-2015, 12:17 AM

Duh, hey look guys...the church!.....Duh...

Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Hey look guys, they will ALL know him, just like it says in Ezekiel...Cool, this means ALL gentiles will know him, not Israel!!!

LOL

Sean · #8 10-10-2015, 12:20 AM

The moronic preterist thinks this is "really" about the CHURCH, not ISRAEL.......

Ezekiel 38 King James Version (KJV)

38 And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,

2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,

3 And say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:

4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:

5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:

6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.

7 Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.

8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.

9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.

10 Thus saith the Lord God; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:

11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,

12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.

13 Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?

14 Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord God; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it?

15 And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army:

16 And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.

17 Thus saith the Lord God; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them?

18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord God, that my fury shall come up in my face.

19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;

20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.

21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord God: every man's sword shall be against his brother.

22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.

23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the Lord.

LOL...I dare these preterists to show us how this "really" is speaking about the church, not Israel!

Please Mr. preterist(pretenderist), show me right here, how this is the church, not Israel.

Either the preterist is lying to us, or God is LYING to Israel(pretending it is to them, through their prophetical expectations)....

Sean · #9 10-10-2015, 12:27 AM

Duh, okay Sean...I will try...Duh....

Ezekiel 38 King James Version (KJV)

38 And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,

2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,

3 And say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:

4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:

5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:

6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.

7 Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.

8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword(the church), and is gathered out of many people(the church), against the mountains of Israel(the church mountains), which have been always waste(the church was wasted) but it is brought forth out of the nations(the church was brought forth out of the nations), and they shall dwell safely all of them(all of the church will dwell safely).

9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee(the armies of Gog and Magog will attack the church).

10 Thus saith the Lord God; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:

11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,(the unwalled church)

12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations(the church), which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.

13 Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?

14 Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord God; In that day when my people of Israel(the church) dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it?

15 And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army:

16 And thou shalt come up against my people of (The Church), as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land(the church is Gods' land), that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.

17 Thus saith the Lord God; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel(the church), which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them(the church)?

18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel(the church), saith the Lord God, that my fury shall come up in my face.

19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of(the church) Israel;

20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.

21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains(the church mountains), saith the Lord God: every man's sword shall be against his brother.

22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.

23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the Lord.....

Duh, ya see this is NOT about future Israel, but the church...Duh...

LOL

Sean · #10 10-10-2015, 12:32 AM

Time for our favorite preterist daily false teaching boys.....

Ezekiel 39 King James Version (KJV)

39 Therefore, thou son of man, prophesy against Gog, and say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:

2 And I will turn thee back, and leave but the sixth part of thee, and will cause thee to come up from the north parts, and will bring thee upon the mountains of DELETE(the church):

3 And I will smite thy bow out of thy left hand, and will cause thine arrows to fall out of thy right hand.

4 Thou shalt fall upon the mountains of DELETE(the church), thou, and all thy bands, and the people that is with thee: I will give thee unto the ravenous birds of every sort, and to the beasts of the field to be devoured.

5 Thou shalt fall upon the open field: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord God.

6 And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the Lord.

7 So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people DELETE(the church) and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the Lord, the Holy One in DELETE(the church)

8 Behold, it is come, and it is done, saith the Lord God; this is the day whereof I have spoken.

9 And they that dwell in the cities of DELETE(the church) shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years:

10 So that they shall take no wood out of the field, neither cut down any out of the forests; for they shall burn the weapons with fire: and they shall spoil those that spoiled them, and rob those that robbed them, saith the Lord God.

11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in DELETE(the church), the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog.

12 And seven months shall the house of DELETE(the church) be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land.

13 Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified, saith the Lord God.

14 And they shall sever out men of continual employment, passing through the land to bury with the passengers those that remain upon the face of the earth, to cleanse it: after the end of seven months shall they search.

15 And the passengers that pass through the land, when any seeth a man's bone, then shall he set up a sign by it, till the buriers have buried it in the valley of Hamongog.

16 And also the name of the city shall be Hamonah. Thus shall they cleanse the land.

17 And, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord God; Speak unto every feathered fowl, and to every beast of the field, Assemble yourselves, and come; gather yourselves on every side to my sacrifice that I do sacrifice for you, even a great sacrifice upon the mountains of DELETE(the church), that ye may eat flesh, and drink blood.

18 Ye shall eat the flesh of the mighty, and drink the blood of the princes of the earth, of rams, of lambs, and of goats, of bullocks, all of them fatlings of Bashan.

19 And ye shall eat fat till ye be full, and drink blood till ye be drunken, of my sacrifice which I have sacrificed for you.

20 Thus ye shall be filled at my table with horses and chariots, with mighty men, and with all men of war, saith the Lord God.

21 And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.

22 So the house of DELETE(the church) shall know that I am the Lord their God from that day and forward.

23 And the heathen shall know that the house of DELETE(the church) went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.

24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them.

25 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Now will I bring again the captivity of DELETE(the church), and have mercy upon the whole house of DELETE(the church), and will be jealous for my holy name;

26 After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made them afraid.

27 When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;

28 Then shall they know that I am the Lord their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.

29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of DELETE(the church), saith the Lord God.

More preterist metaphoristic lying....LOL