Calling on the Name of Jesus (at baptism)

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

I bet if we looked into the origin of this doctrine we would find an effort to overthrow the validity of the (Greek) NT...

That's where our good friends are going with this. They really aren't considering the implications. It starts off as we need to seek more truth and speak a Hebrew name, but its conclusion ends up begging questions which logically bring in doubt the ORIGINAL Greek text.

[Esaias]

About the Peshitta - it ain't what sacred namers think it is:

http://aramaicnt.org/articles/proble...hitta-primacy/

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Well obviously it is a matter of personal preference. If it were not we would be preaching it as a sin issue.

Is it sinful to you if I use Yeshua and Jesus?

Wait, you posted it was a search for truth issue, if people wanted more truth they would use your Aramaic Yeshua, instead of the Hebrew Yehoshua?

Good Grief!!!!

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

The Chinese is from the Greek BAD transliteration.

Good Grief!!!

There were sounds and grammatical rules in the Hebrew that did not translate well into the Greek.

We definitely know that the combination SH was not available in Greek, there was no way to translate that Hebrew sound into Greek for it did not existed in that language, so an approximation was used.

The same with the grammatical rules, there were differences in the grammar between Hebrew and Greek so accommodations had to be made.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

Only because you are reading from a Greek writing.

But the Bible tells us that IESOUS at the age of 12 was in the temple discussing theology with the learned men in there.

It is well known that they conducted their teaching sessions in Hebrew not Aramaic much less in Greek, so it is obvious that Jesus did know Hebrew.

Just because his life was recorded in Greek does not mean that he and his disciples spoke Greek.

His life, words, and NAME were recorded in Greek BY DIVINE SUPERINTENDANCE. You have lost your Bible, friend, and don't realize it.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

There were sounds and grammatical rules in the Hebrew that did not translate well into the Greek.

We definitely know that the combination SH was not available in Greek, there was no way to translate that Hebrew sound into Greek for it did not existed in that language, so an approximation was used.

The same with the grammatical rules, there were differences in the grammar between Hebrew and Greek so accommodations had to be made.

Iesous is pronounced Yee sues give me a break!

In Latin its pronounced Yee su like Yeshu!!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

Only because you are reading from a Greek writing.

But the Bible tells us that IESOUS at the age of 12 was in the temple discussing theology with the learned men in there.

It is well known that they conducted their teaching sessions in Hebrew not Aramaic much less in Greek, so it is obvious that Jesus did know Hebrew.

Just because his life was recorded in Greek does not mean that he and his disciples spoke Greek.

Bro, they quoted the LXX, Jesus speaks with a Syrophoenician Greek Syrian woman. Jesus uses the phrase which was known to the Syrian Greeks for ankle biter dog.

Pontius Pilate who proclaimed AM I A JUDEAN!!!

Spoke Aramaic???

JAJAJAJAJA!!!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Jesus and Joseph lived in Galilee of the Romans

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Esaias

His life, words, and NAME were recorded in Greek BY DIVINE SUPERINTENDANCE. You have lost your Bible, friend, and don't realize it.

If you truly believe that, then you need to start calling him Iesous, instead of Jesus, which is pronounced differently.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

Just because his life was recorded in Greek does not mean that he and his disciples spoke Greek.

Thank you for posting what I have been saying that this issue is really about. It is that we no longer have the original words of Jesus and the Apostles. Again, this argument starts off in the name game, then ends up placing doubt on the ORIGINAL Greek documents of the Bible.