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09-15-2007, 09:56 PM
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..and sticking out your tongue

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That too.
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09-15-2007, 11:00 PM
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After typing several different things that don't sound all that witty, I just feel like:
*kicking Daniel in the shins*
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You go girl!!!
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09-15-2007, 09:57 PM
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I finally read the original post and it isn't about standards or submission. It's about treating women like second class citizens which isn't what the true church of Christ is all about.
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. Gal 3:28
So, Crazyhomie, how is the body of Christ treating half of its members as second class citizens? I'm not feeling this.
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09-15-2007, 09:58 PM
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I finally read the original post and it isn't about standards or submission. It's about treating women like second class citizens which isn't what the true church of Christ is all about.
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. Gal 3:28
So, Crazyhomie, how is the body of Christ treating half of its members as second class citizens in church?
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09-15-2007, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
I finally read the original post and it isn't about standards or submission. It's about treating women like second class citizens which isn't what the true church of Christ is all about.
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. Gal 3:28
So, Crazyhomie, how is the body of Christ treating half of its members as second class citizens? I'm not feeling this.
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But isn't the body of Christ the Oneness Apostolic church according to much of the theology around here?
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09-15-2007, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
I finally read the original post and it isn't about standards or submission. It's about treating women like second class citizens which isn't what the true church of Christ is all about.
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. Gal 3:28
So, Crazyhomie, how is the body of Christ treating half of its members as second class citizens? I'm not feeling this.
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Good word, and we all look forward to the day when we will not experience anxiety nor any offensive spirit that walks this earth.
THough I can't speak for Crazyhomie, I would like to adress your last question, having been reared in Pentecostal roots, I often witnessed in our Hispanic churches, the "submission" to male authority by the veiling of women in our churches, only teaching positions that did not threaten men( to children, only), and forbidding them to preach other than an occaisonal testimonial. Their response to this was raising up their own women who worked within these boundries to do the work of church, sometimes accomplishing more than their male counterparts. My 80 year old mother being a gracious example of this. Times have changed, but they still require headcovering. Women still do not preach in these congregations (no matter what credentials they hold). As a man, I'm blessed we are not like the world today that highly regards power driven women who immasculate men, and then celibrates. God bless all our sanctified Grandmothers, Mothers and wives (if you are fortunate enough to have them).
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09-15-2007, 11:43 PM
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Good word, and we all look forward to the day when we will not experience anxiety nor any offensive spirit that walks this earth.
THough I can't speak for Crazyhomie, I would like to adress your last question, having been reared in Pentecostal roots, I often witnessed in our Hispanic churches, the "submission" to male authority by the veiling of women in our churches, only teaching positions that did not threaten men( to children, only), and forbidding them to preach other than an occaisonal testimonial. Their response to this was raising up their own women who worked within these boundries to do the work of church, sometimes accomplishing more than their male counterparts. My 80 year old mother being a gracious example of this. Times have changed, but they still require headcovering. Women still do not preach in these congregations (no matter what credentials they hold). As a man, I'm blessed we are not like the world today that highly regards power driven women who immasculate men, and then celibrates. God bless all our sanctified Grandmothers, Mothers and wives (if you are fortunate enough to have them).
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You ever think maybe the reason they require head coverings was because they believe the bible says so? Say they are wrong. Say they misinterpret the word, but don't you think it's rather judgemental to say you know their ulterior motive is submission to men?
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09-15-2007, 10:04 PM
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It's about treating women like second class citizens which isn't what the true church of Christ is all about.
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And my and others' opinion is that the true church doesn't do this in our experience.
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09-15-2007, 10:09 PM
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Apparently, in the mounting pile of "evidence", positive experiences don't count.
Can someone say, stack the deck?
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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09-15-2007, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Apparently, in the mounting pile of "evidence", positive experiences don't count.
Can someone say, stack the deck?
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Stack the deck.
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