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Old 04-24-2007, 09:05 PM
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The whole point of this thread was that dress whether affordable or not had pushed the church to a "Gotta Keep up With the Jones" spirit... and it is quite noticable by others...

Whether the church is visited or is a guest somewhere else..
Which goes back to my original premise. The tighter the standards; the greater the need to express individuality in other ways.
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Which goes back to my original premise. The tighter the standards; the greater the need to express individuality in other ways.
You Nailed it...
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Old 04-24-2007, 09:07 PM
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Of course.
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Old 04-24-2007, 09:09 PM
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Old 04-25-2007, 07:13 AM
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With all due respect; how can one say for sure what they would do if they never earned the kind of money that allows such an expenditure without blinking?

Costly array is in the eye of the beholder. Let us not forget that even as the woman of Proverbs reached out her hand to the poor; her own clothing was silk and purple.
Call the law Newman and I agree on something to do with standards.

I know men who are men of means, my father is a millionare he is not going to SHOP for a bargain he thinks his time is worth more than that. He walks into shops that know him and cater to him he buys and he is out. Cost to him is not relative. He has suits he has worn for years he likes them. Now his son is very different in everyway. Since I have not been wealthy I do shop for bargains.
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Old 04-25-2007, 07:40 AM
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Call the law Newman and I agree on something to do with standards.

I know men who are men of means, my father is a millionare he is not going to SHOP for a bargain he thinks his time is worth more than that. He walks into shops that know him and cater to him he buys and he is out. Cost to him is not relative. He has suits he has worn for years he likes them. Now his son is very different in everyway. Since I have not been wealthy I do shop for bargains.
Speaking of bargains I finally bought some glue so that I could glue back the part of my wonderful Johnston & Murphy shoe back together that came apart after being underwater for 15 minutes or so last year when I almost drowned in Scotland. Those were the ones I got at the place you sent me to in Murfreesboro.
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Old 04-25-2007, 07:59 AM
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Ah... but which fish?
Does it matter? All fish need catching -- even the distasteful ones.
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Old 04-25-2007, 08:38 AM
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I will mostly agree with that. However, I would try not to judge but rather enjoy someone who puts alot of effort into looking good. God isn't finished with anyone yet.

Hehehe You would think by reading my posts that I am very much one of those that I am defending. Not true at all. I just recognize that all are different and thank God for it. Life might be pretty boring otherwise.
I agree with what you say as well. I think most people are not complaining about people dressing up as much as the hypocrisy of dressing up to the nines and condemning a rope necklace or some equivalent picture.
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Which goes back to my original premise. The tighter the standards; the greater the need to express individuality in other ways.
This is an area that deserves an anthropological study. Closed Cultures with alternative lifestyles like old time Pentecost end up having their own hierarchy and social strata.

Any group of people will, within the paramters they are given for living, develop these things. It is human nature!

Compensation is also a factor. As in; "If I can't wear makeup I will wear the coolest, best looking, shoes I can afford, sometimes ones I can't afford!"

If a person does not keep their heart on the altar and work on developing the fruit of the spirit in their lives this compensation can result in a spirit of "superiority". I have seen Pentecostal women dressed up to the nines in malls walking around with a haughty air looking down their noses at the "common" women around them that are dressed casually. I have also seen Pentecostal women dressed to the nines with big smiles on their faces and as welcoming and friendly as anybody on earth.
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I agree with what you say as well. I think most people are not complaining about people dressing up as much as the hypocrisy of dressing up to the nines and condemning a rope necklace or some equivalent picture.
You can wear a thousand dollar dress and rolex watch to General Conference but don't dare show up with a ten dollar piece of costume jewelry on!!!!!!!!
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