Mark of the beast idea

[Sean]

You guys are throwing all of Revelations persecution and deaths in Chapters 6 and 7 on the so called Jews of Rev.18

[Sean]

To the preterist, Rome, with its millions murdered and billions deceived by its FALSE PROPHET...Catholic counterfeit church, walk away "scott free" and the Jews of old take the blame in Rev 18.

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Originally Posted by Sean

Mike, you guys are saying all means all. There are posts on the internet that say preterism is antisemitic. I now see how they get that. You guys are inferring that ALL of the martyred saints are on the hands of the Jews of old that crucified Jesus...Hitler used that.

This has gone interesting now. Since you guys reject Rev. 18 as being another entity. The Jews are utterly destroyed for the multitude of martyrs of Rev 6 and 7.

No, we are not saying FOR ALL TIME. Sean! This is how you start lying, lol. That's crazy! lol We are saying UP TO AD70 only. Okay. Get it?

And since UP TO AD70 Jerusalem was guilty of ALL, THEN NO ONE LATER CAN BE GUILTY OF ALL. If Jerusalem never killed anyone AFTER AD70, it still stands that no one after could be said to be guilty of ALL.

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Originally Posted by Sean

My position is that the City of Rev. 18 is responsible for the persecution and slaughter of the saints of Rev 6 and 7....

The bible never said that, Sean. It said ALL the blood SHED ON THE EARTH.

[Sean]

Thats what I read about preterists teaching antisemitism....I now see it clearly guys.

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Sean, you just don't want to change beliefs, period. Purposely blind.

[Sean]

Remember guys..ALL MEANS ALL!!!

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Originally Posted by Sean

Thats what I read about preterists teaching antisemitism....I now see it clearly guys.

Lie on. We never said what you think we said. You misread all we said. Unbelievable.

[Bowas]

Originally Posted by Sean

Thats what I read about preterists teaching antisemitism....I now see it clearly guys.

Sean. Serioulsy. Anti-semite? Come on. There is nothing in what is being proposed that is even remotely anti-semite.
If you would for a moment stop the emotional name calling and just understand it is not us that made the "all" statement. Just because you may not see it at this time, but to suggest anti-semitism is reprehensible.
The scriptutes are consistent in identifying who is the guilty city is, it is not us you resist. You failed to show the two entities scripturally, but only did so on speculation.
Here is what many are guilty of. They have a predetermined outcome and then build a foundation on the end result of their predetermined position.
Case in point. "All" to you is not all, but both. Earlier you said soon, at hand or shortly is really "far" without scripturally supporting the notion, just speculating.
Just to let you know, I, at one time saw so many things as you currently do and I taught them and preached it, but I was honest enough with myself to realize I did not have all the answers and was open for some adjustments in my views, and I still am.
If you can show me scripturally how Matt. 23:34-37 and Rev. 18:24 are not one and the same but are two separate entities, fine, but to throw slurs and false accusations becasue you don't seem to be able to is really beneath you.

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Which preterists are slurring Sean with names like he is doing with us? Nice.