Charismatic Bishop In Lawsuit. - Page 27

Mr. Smith · #1 09-30-2010, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

Like Paris Hilton NOT knowing what's in her purse?

We love to see the worst of everything, don't we?

Mr. Smith · #2 09-30-2010, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord

And most are not.

But some are. Maybe one day, you'll be one of the "Some" and you'll be thankful for people like me that rush to your side to support you and believe in you.

rgcraig · #3 09-30-2010, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

But some are. Maybe one day, you'll be one of the "Some" and you'll be thankful for people like me that rush to your side to support you and believe in you.

I think you just have an issue with MOW - - his story wasn't saying ALL, EVERYONE LAST TIME, no exceptions. Most of us are smart enough to know there are expections to everything.

ManOfWord · #4 09-30-2010, 11:27 AM

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But some are. Maybe one day, you'll be one of the "Some" and you'll be thankful for people like me that rush to your side to support you and believe in you.

Thanks for the well wishes. Already been there, done that and I still have no problem saying what I say. I hope it never happens to you.

BTW, I know the "case" in Ohio (not the sex abuse case) better than probably anyone here. It was the church I was saved in. Verdict is supposed to come out today. I DO know the facts and what happened. I sincerely hope for mercy, but I can tell you that the church folks' dream of a new facility was spent on something (many things) else w/o their consent. However, I'm not going to get into details since many of those folks are still close to me. What happened was NOT in the best interest of the church or it's members.

Praxeas · #5 09-30-2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord

Since I work in law-enforcement (Sheriff's Chaplain) this reminds me of a person who is pulled over under suspicion for drug related activity. The officer asks them to step out of their vehicle and then asks if there is anything illegal in their vehicle. They respond, "No" and the officer asks for permission to search their car. Like an idiot, almost every time, the driver will say, "Sure, go ahead. I've got nothing to hide."

The officer searches, discovers a bag of "whatever", shows it to the person, who then say, "Hey, I don't know how that got there. It's not mine!"

It's like the person somehow believes that that when they give the officer permission to search that he'll say, "No, that's OK. I believe you. I'm not going to search your car."

It's human nature to hide our "darkness." But that is precisely the reason it gets exposed so that we can deal with it and get free. God gives ample opportunities for us to deal with the "darkness" privately so we are not "exposed." However, if we choose not to deal with it, it is not so much that God exposes us to shame us, it is simply that our failure to deal with it has caused that which we are hiding to continue to grow to a point that it gets exposed by virtue of its "size" and degree of impropriety.

I'm all for mercy for all who have sinned, but we either deal with it on our knees, get someone to help us etc. or we'll have to deal with it publicly. It really is our choice and God is on our side to heal us and set us free. If we choose our own route, then we'll just have to deal with the fall-out. Unfortunately, many others will get dragged into it as well and that is what AB is saying.

If you say no they take your license away, which I think should be unconstitutional

Maximilian · #6 09-30-2010, 11:33 AM

Normally when these things come out, you wonder if it's just the tip of the iceberg.

Smith is right, I know next to nothing about the situation, and I'm more talking in hypotheticals than specifically Eddie Long's situation.

ManOfWord · #7 09-30-2010, 11:36 AM

So, who is the "Saul" and who is the Lord's anointed?

Time to read "Tale of 3 Kings" again!

Cindy · #8 09-30-2010, 11:38 AM

For most perpetrators admitting guilt is very hard, no matter the evidence. And for the victims, admitting it happened, just as hard.

And for those that are victims in this kind of situation, the emotional pain far out weighs the physical.

Maximilian · #9 09-30-2010, 11:40 AM

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For most perpetrators admitting guilt is very hard, no matter the evidence. And for the victims, admitting it happened, just as hard.

And for those that are victims in this kind of situation, the emotional pain far out weighs the physical.

Especially grown men admitting they were molested and even "willing" sexual partners in a manipualated relationship. Why would a black man admit to having sex with another man? Four of them at that? Bringing down a man who loved them? I ask myself their motives. Most will say money, but that's not really good enough.

BTW, Eddie Long is one ripped dude.

coadie · #10 09-30-2010, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Maximilian

Especially grown men admitting they were molested and even "willing" sexual partners in a manipualated relationship. Why would a black man admit to having sex with another man? Four of them at that? Bringing down a man who loved them? I ask myself their motives. Most will say money, but that's not really good enough.

BTW, Eddie Long is one ripped dude.

In part of the video interview, the kid expressed the severe pain and guilt inside. Not to speak for the kid, but many carry guilt and torment inside. The lads loved Eddie, and Eddies love in return was eros and not philial love.

Only God can heal and restore these young men. As a fact, many have a lot of issues and can't have a healthy marriage in their future without a inner healing. I understood these felas didn't have a dad and Eddie took over that role. Then he exploited it. The bible shows no mercy to those that harm orphans and the fatherless.