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Old 05-21-2007, 08:04 AM
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It wasn't the sexual immortally, it was the lies!!!!! What a joke! Fornication in the oval office is OK, just don't lie about it!!
The point is that sexual immorality has been going on in the White House for years. Clinton got caught! How did the preoccupation with this matter benefit the US? It didn't!
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Old 05-21-2007, 08:16 AM
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Truly, you must be reading and believing Hilliary's press releases and Bill's own autobiography. He certainly was a successful 'politician', he knows how to stick his finger in the air and chase the wind.
Did you read my post at all? I tend to keep my ear open to the world. I am a news hound. I read news from many different sources around the world. It is to the detriment of Americans that they are so self-absorbed they can't consider that while they may be the wealthiest and most powerful nation in the world they are a very small minority in the world. Most of the world does not relate to their culture and has a different world view. It would be in the interest of America to show more respect for the rest of the world that shares this planet.

This is manifesting itself in the church world as well. There are more Christians gathered for church services in China every week than there is in the US. Other nations are sending Christian missionaries to the US because they are more fervent in their faith than most Americans are and feel that the US is a backslidden nation.
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Old 05-21-2007, 08:23 AM
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It wasn't the sexual immortally, it was the lies!!!!! What a joke! Fornication in the oval office is OK, just don't lie about it!!
The point is that sexual immorality has been going on for many years in the White House. Clinton simply got caught and then lied about it. He certainly wasn't the first president to lie to the American public. How was the preoccupation with Clinton of any benefit to the US? None! The US is a nation in decline and neither GWB or any other president will be able to turn it around. The US will lose its status as the most powerful nation on earth eventually and it may be sooner than most people think.
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Old 05-21-2007, 08:25 AM
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The point is that sexual immorality has been going on for many years in the White House. Clinton simply got caught and then lied about it. He certainly wasn't the first president to lie to the American public. How was the preoccupation with Clinton of any benefit to the US? None! The US is a nation in decline and neither GWB or any other president will be able to turn it around. The US will lose its status as the most powerful nation on earth eventually and it may be sooner than most people think.
Only if people with your view and that of France, etc prevail.
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Old 05-21-2007, 08:25 AM
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The point is that sexual immorality has been going on for many years in the White House. Clinton simply got caught and then lied about it. He certainly wasn't the first president to lie to the American public. How was the preoccupation with Clinton of any benefit to the US? None! The US is a nation in decline and neither GWB or any other president will be able to turn it around. The US will lose its status as the most powerful nation on earth eventually and it may be sooner than most people think.
So, if and when the US goes down the tubes, where do you think it will leave Canada?
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Old 05-21-2007, 08:44 AM
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So, if and when the US goes down the tubes, where do you think it will leave Canada?
Since most of the major corporations in Canada are being bought up by US corporations, Canada will go the way of the US. Europe and Asia will become the new economic powers in the near future. The US as a government, as is true with most Americans in general, is in debt up to its eyeballs and this cannot be sustained in the longterm. I advise you to read international news more. You'll get a better read on what is really happening in the world without the US filter.
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Old 05-21-2007, 08:47 AM
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The point is that sexual immorality has been going on in the White House for years. Clinton got caught! How did the preoccupation with this matter benefit the US? It didn't!
well, based on the fact that BC was under investagation for sexual harrasmint and only a few years before a senator had been removed from office for the same thing....and considering that lying under oath (the actual charge) is a felony under U. S. law, the preoccupation with the matter was (for some) a matter of honoring our own legal system and holding those in power to the same standard that average citizens are held to.

it seems the democrat party and the media did a good job in spinning the affair to make BC the victem and not the women he attacked.
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Old 05-21-2007, 09:17 AM
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It's the attitude of Americans towards other peoples that has contributed to much of the hostility being shown towards the US today. Through the years the US has been very involved in providing arms and technology to dictators who ended up turning on them. IMO it's the foreign policy of the past that has placed the US in the position it is in now, not the cutback in defense spending. Of course I am an American who has lived outside of the US for most of my life and travelled to 25 nations, so I suppose I do have a different perspective than some of you. I have had many opportunities to listen to what foreigners have to say about American attitudes and policy. I have come to accept that not all American ideas are correct or good.

I agree with this. the problem is that the rest of the world seems to have forgotten why. for the last half of the 20th century , America was locked in a death struggle with the soviet union. we did things and supported dictators that in a vaccume, it would be criminal to do.

in the same vein, in a vaccum, it would be seen as criminal for the US to bomb Berlin however in the context of WW2, not bombing Berlin would have been criminal.

Context is key. Americans remember. the rest of the world seems to have forgotten or simply chooses not to remember.
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Old 05-21-2007, 09:24 AM
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Since most of the major corporations in Canada are being bought up by US corporations, Canada will go the way of the US. Europe and Asia will become the new economic powers in the near future. The US as a government, as is true with most Americans in general, is in debt up to its eyeballs and this cannot be sustained in the longterm. I advise you to read international news more. You'll get a better read on what is really happening in the world without the US filter.
i agree completely with this assessment. Europe and Asia will surpass the US in the new economy. It also points to a failure of the Bush adminstration not to have understood the goal of France and Germany in the Iraq debate.

Your post articulates very well what France sought to achieve in putting the US in a bad position. In the end, France continues to play the roll it has historicaly played. (and one of the reasons for European wars)

That roll beign the balance shifter. France has shifted sides continously since the end of the hundred years war, in an effort to keep some balance of power in Europe.

Unless there is a major shift, and unless America can create an economic zone including central and south America, and unless we can find a way to raise the standard of living everywhere to our south, America will become the middle class nation.
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Old 05-21-2007, 09:26 AM
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Since most of the major corporations in Canada are being bought up by US corporations, Canada will go the way of the US. Europe and Asia will become the new economic powers in the near future. The US as a government, as is true with most Americans in general, is in debt up to its eyeballs and this cannot be sustained in the longterm. I advise you to read international news more. You'll get a better read on what is really happening in the world without the US filter.
Well, I would venture to guess that the US will stay in power as long as we have enough in our nuclear arsenal to wipe out the entire planet several times over. However, I do agree with you on the US having lost economic power, but I don't see Europe and Asia taking over in the near future. Also, what makes you think I don't read international news? Canadians aren't the only ones with the internet, ya know.
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