Read Segraves on "letting down hair"

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by DAII

More HAIR AND ANGEL WORSHIP ON EVERYONE'S APOSTOLIC




Now angels give out the HOLY SPIRIT ????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ...

This didn't all happen in a vacuum, or is it a fictional tale from Limony Snickets' Series of Unfortunate Events .... or by some "perfect storm" of individual events ... it is rooted and inextricably linked to poor hermeneutic and false doctrine taught by iconic teachers for a decade and a half and "unfortanately" .... exclusively practiced and regurgitated heretically by a misguided segment of APOSTOLICA.

A clear cut example that "power" is being interpreted as "dunamis" by the masses who hear this message.

Some are no longer Pentecostal .. much less Apostolic.

Our elders in their common sense wisdom used to say if it causes confusion, don't pay it any attention ... reject it. God is not the AUTHOR OF CONFUSION.

What does BD say? BIG BIG problem. Her hair is NOT the glory of God. Good grief! It does not give her the power of angels around her. It is not how you "tap into" the Holy Ghost and angels do NOT give it.

And her source is an LS video

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

What does BD say? BIG BIG problem. Her hair is NOT the glory of God. Good grief! It does not give her the power of angels around her. It is not how you "tap into" the Holy Ghost and angels do NOT give it.

And her source is an LS video

This makes me so stinking mad, I want to choke whoever started this mess! LOL!

[BobDylan]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

What does BD say? BIG BIG problem. Her hair is NOT the glory of God. Good grief! It does not give her the power of angels around her. It is not how you "tap into" the Holy Ghost and angels do NOT give it.

And her source is an LS video

I have nothing to argue, for clearly the statements made by this young lady are misguided and inaccurate. As a friend of mine says "folk theology". Immature saints say a lot of things that are not theologically accurate, like "God robed in flesh", or "the flesh is the son and the spirit is the father". As people mature and develop (if they do) they learn that these are inaccurate statements, often propogated by preachers who "dumb down" the reality of the incarnation. I would say that this young lady's statements are a misunderstanding that hopefully as she matures, will be corrected by her own study or teachers in her life conveying the truth more thoroughly. Does LS say the things this young lady states? No he doesn't. But IMO, he needs to be more thorough and careful to present accurate theology so as to avert these kinds of misunderstanding....

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by BobDylan

I have nothing to argue, for clearly the statements made by this young lady are misguided and inaccurate. As a friend of mine says "folk theology". Immature saints say a lot of things that are not theologically accurate, like "God robed in flesh", or "the flesh is the son and the spirit is the father". As people mature and develop (if they do) they learn that these are inaccurate statements, often propogated by preachers who "dumb down" the reality of the incarnation. I would say that this young lady's statements are a misunderstanding that hopefully as she matures, will be corrected by her own study or teachers in her life conveying the truth more thoroughly. Does LS say the things this young lady states? No he doesn't. But IMO, he needs to be more thorough and careful to present accurate theology so as to avert these kinds of misunderstanding....

She is not alone though and apparently she seems to think LS supports her. Thus my previous statement that LS needs to step up to the plate.

If not I have a hard time not believing that their motive is the ends justify the means...anything as long as "our ladies" do not cut their hair

[BobDylan]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

She is not alone though and apparently she seems to think LS supports her. Thus my previous statement that LS needs to step up to the plate.

If not I have a hard time not believing that their motive is the ends justify the means...anything as long as "our ladies" do not cut their hair

I agree with you Prax.... LS should step up, acknowledge a problem, and be thorough in his endeavors to present untainted truth in an easily understandable way. I don't have as big a problem with specific things LS has said, laying on hair, or anything else, as I do with the misguided understanding that is being propogated, such as is evidenced by this girl's statemnts. Thankfully, our theologians are endeavorung to be accurate, and hopefully some if this will begin to be addressed more thoroughly on the local level to address misguided language and understanding.

[Praxeas]

IMO men like LS need to be accountable to the theologians who know a little more about the greek and continued on to higher learning where as LS I think just spent the min many UPCers do in a UPC bible school

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by BobDylan

Are you serious? Hilarious!!! LOL.... the joker can't match me for wit, so these are the kinds of pubescent stunts he pulls! It's clear that yours and his intellect, or lack thereof, is flowing from the same stream!

BobDylan... I've been trying to avoid this thread because I'm really disappointed in your tack, but I am glad to see that your self esteem hasn't taken a hit.

[BobDylan]

Originally Posted by pelathais

BobDylan... I've been trying to avoid this thread because I'm really disappointed in your tack, but I am glad to see that your self esteem hasn't taken a hit.

Seriously Pel, I'm not unreasonable, nor disrespectful. But as I have said several times, I WILL match the level of rhetoric directed toward me. If that is the aspect of my tack your disappointed in, I don't know what else to say. Prax, jfrog, and I are doing reasonably well in our exchanges of late, and I would encourage anyone else to enter into the exchanges as well... So long as they don't think they are going to pull one over on me without requittal! I think you and I could get along well too Pel, with a little effort! Besides, why would my self esteem take a hit? The best efforts on here attacking my self esteem have been miserably feeble, and boring!

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by BobDylan

I have nothing to argue, for clearly the statements made by this young lady are misguided and inaccurate. As a friend of mine says "folk theology". Immature saints say a lot of things that are not theologically accurate, like "God robed in flesh", or "the flesh is the son and the spirit is the father". As people mature and develop (if they do) they learn that these are inaccurate statements, often propogated by preachers who "dumb down" the reality of the incarnation. I would say that this young lady's statements are a misunderstanding that hopefully as she matures, will be corrected by her own study or teachers in her life conveying the truth more thoroughly. Does LS say the things this young lady states? No he doesn't. But IMO, he needs to be more thorough and careful to present accurate theology so as to avert these kinds of misunderstanding....

I think BD may be on to something here! Let's just hope he can put it to work in his own life!

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by BobDylan

Seriously Pel, I'm not unreasonable, nor disrespectful. But as I have said several times, I WILL match the level of rhetoric directed toward me. If that is the aspect of my tack your disappointed in, I don't know what else to say. Prax, jfrog, and I are doing reasonably well in our exchanges of late, and I would encourage anyone else to enter into the exchanges as well... So long as they don't think they are going to pull one over on me without requittal! I think you and I could get along well too Pel, with a little effort! Besides, why would my self esteem take a hit? The best efforts on here attacking my self esteem have been miserably feeble, and boring!

Is this what Jesus would do?