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Old 10-01-2007, 02:23 AM
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you've never read 1984, have you???

I seriously doubt the liberal side of the UPC is going to start prosecuting "thought crimes", although I'm pretty sure the UCs wanted resolution #3 to pass so they could prosecut people for wanting to advertise on tv (arguably thought crime)...

Keep grasping, though, brother, keep grasping...

and if you are referring to the whole world... if I remember right, isn't it post-apocolyptic??? Plus most of the technology either won't happen or we are past and it happened differently, so it isn't possible to actually happen...
Did Resolution 3 pass?
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Old 10-01-2007, 02:33 AM
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Did Resolution 3 pass?
yeah....
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Old 10-01-2007, 05:03 AM
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Is it "legalism" if a person does not think anything about TV is wholesome?
Do you know for a fact that a lot of these "UC" have computers or do you even
know what they are doing with them?

Computers are not just for the Internet.
I have a cousin who has a computer at home but is not on the internet-doesn't trust it. He thinks too many are watching you surf.


Oh by the way he is not Apostolic!

Computer-many uses. TV-One main use.
It is not about "computers". It is about the "Internet".
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Old 10-01-2007, 05:50 AM
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Television is entertianment, Internet is information.
Television is controlled by a group of ungodly and wicked men--producers and other high ups in a corrupt industry.

What you see on the internet is controlled by you.
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Old 10-01-2007, 05:54 AM
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I'm going to try, but most of this is just going to be me laughing at the complete and utter absurdity of this... I mean... LETS MAKE FUN OF VEGGIETALES FOR NOT BEING LITERAL ENOUGH!!! (and let's not note the fact that the main characters of the show are TALKING VEGETABLES!!!!!!!!! I MEAN REALLY!!)



THEY'RE TALKING VEGETABLES!!!! TALKING VEGETABLES!!! SQUASHES, TOMATOES, PEAS, CARROTS, CUCUMBERS, AND THE OCCASIONAL FRUIT WHO SPEAK!!!!!!

They don't have arms, but they have superheroes, plates to break and lie about, slingshots to sling, fish to bash eachother in the head with, and tons of other things that MAKE NO SENSE!!!!

This show is NOT MEANT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY!! It is meant to teach kids in a humorous, silly way the basics of Bible stories and NT principles... The fact that you are seriously ripping on it this seriously shows that either you are a troll who is just here to annoy people or that you are seriously a sad, pathetic person with way too much time on your hands... I mean... seriously... THEY'RE TALKING VEGETABLES!!!

What next? are you going to complain because Nebuchanezzer & Goliath were played by the same vegetable???



They teach about Jesus as much as you can in a 30 minute cartoon that does absolutely nothing but tell the story of David with a silly song interlude in the middle...



If its aimed at 3 years olds??? Hopefully it can be half as good as Veggietales...

If its aimed at adults?? It will probably be a little more correct in its telling of the stories and be a smidge more "preachy" rather than "silly" since, ya know, the people watching it are assumed to have gone to school past Kindergarden...



So now only the New Testament is valid??? lol

And as far as I know they haven't told one story from the New Testament, although they have done a number of "new" stories based upon New Testament Principles ("I Can Be Your Friend", all the Larry Boy cartoons, the monster one, Madamme Blueberry, etc., etc., etc.)

Seriously, they have yet to do any stories of Jesus (I think it is probably because they don't want to pick a character to play Jesus, nor do they want to make Jesus silly, and they make every story silly... They turn Babylon into a chocolate factory where everyone "loves the bunny" (chocolate bunny) instead of what it really is and rename Shadrach, Meeshach, & Abendego "Rack, Shack, & Benny" (they do state thier full names, though))



Seriously, you need to get off this "everything is useless if someone doesn't get converted by it"... There is a lot more to this life than just converting people...

Let's just look at the New Testament... 4 books tell the Story of Christ's earthhly ministry...

1 book documents the history of the early church...

1 book is prophetic...

and 21 books are about living the life of a Christian and contain directions on how to live for God AFTER conversion...

You are ignoring most of the Bible, brother, and it isn't healthy... not for your spiritual walk or the spiritual walk of any who follow you... You are teaching a shallow gospel...

Besides, like I said, Veggietales are aimed at little kids... There are 2 issues with aiming the show at young children:

1. you can't be too preachy or you will make parents not allow thier kids to watch it because they don't agree with some part of your doctrine...

2. most of your audience isn't old enough to fully understand what is going on...

This is about getting a foundation of the stories in the Bible into these kids in entertaining ways, teaching them not to lie, to love thier neighbor, and to trust in God... There is more to teaching Christ than bashing baptism into thier skulls...



Other than thier silly editing of the stories so they are appropriate for 5 year olds, please show me one thing in Veggietales that is a "falsehood"...

Seriously, bro, ripping on Veggietales is the height of pathetic... Like I said, I'm starting to think you are either a troll or not worth anyone's time responding to you... If I were able to sleep and not bored out of my mind, I wouldn't even be responding to you right now...



Yes, they say the name is Jesus, and explicitly saying "Jesus is God"? I'm not sure, but then again there is only so theologically deep you can get in a show aimed at little kids... They pray to Jesus, they say "Jesus loves you" and all that stuff and I would say its pretty obvious taht they are saying Jesus is God...

But, hey, you're looking for fault in a cartoon with TALKING VEGETABLES!!! So its not like logic is going to matter here...



I don't live in "po dunk" or "mud lick", but thanks for asking...

I find it hilarious how you are so quick to insult other people and where they live...



look up the word "relative" in the dictionary... get back to me when you understand what it means...



If a great revival doesn't happen because of TV, then it doesn't and we find another way to have revival... I think that there will be souls saved through this.. But the point is that there is no logical reason not to use TV to advertise... I mean, look at all the people that those fakes on channels like TBN can touch, now imagine what the real power of God can do....



first of all, I'm pretty sure "Yo MTV Raps" isn't on TV anymore... at all... anywhere... lol

and secondly, those are horrible timeslots... I say we aim for the spot after Heroes, Lost, ER, The Office, or Desperate Housewives... Those shows get killer ratings... imagine if we had a lead-in audience of 60 million people to a sermon by Bro. Arnold or Bro. Mangun (hope I spelled that right)... That would be awesome...



pot, meet kettle...

you reap what you sew, bro... the attitude you give everyone else around here will, eventually, be given back to you... you are starting to see that happen...

Translation: RC is deeply impressed by veggie tales.
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Old 10-01-2007, 05:55 AM
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Television is controlled by a group of ungodly and wicked men--producers and other high ups in a corrupt industry.

What you see on the internet is controlled by you.
not entirely true...

www.skyangel.com

you can get ONLY skyangel channels for like $12/month or something like that...
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Old 10-01-2007, 05:57 AM
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Translation: RC is deeply impressed by veggie tales.
for what they are, they are very very good... the animation is top notch, the stories are humorous, and they get what they set out to do done...

I just don't see how anyone can rip on them the way that he did, that's impressively absurd and quite pathetic...

I mean... its a children's program... Its mostly meant to be absurd... you aren't going to get deep theological dissertations and to expect one either means you are insane or you don't understand the purpose of the show...
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Old 10-01-2007, 06:01 AM
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not entirely true...

www.skyangel.com

you can get ONLY skyangel channels for like $12/month or something like that...

Then you get content controlled by trinitarians and false prophets.

Thanks for helping me prove my point.
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Old 10-01-2007, 06:07 AM
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Then you get content controlled by trinitarians and false prophets.

Thanks for helping me prove my point.
but this is what you call a "self-fulfilling prophecy"

there is no TV you approve of because those who you approve of refuse to be on or broadcast any television, thus there can't be any tv you approve of...

Your argument is thus useless because you actively work to make sure that it stays true by doing absolutely nothing to change the void of quality entertainment controlled by oneness Apostolics....

you can't both ban oneness poeple from broadcasting television AND say things like SkyAngel are evil because it is controlled by non oneness people...
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Old 10-01-2007, 06:13 AM
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Oneness Apostolics have a far greater mission in life than filling the so-called void of quality entertainment.

This is getting better as it goes.
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