New Hope Shooter Posted Threats on EXUPC forum

[chosenbyone]

BTW, I read the post by the young man in question and they were truly frightening. If you want, I could try and post them here.

[chosenbyone]

I am posting this link, but I am not sure how long they will keep it up if they find out about it being here on AFF. If someone wants to copy what it written there before they take it down, you may want to do it quickly.

http://p223.ezboard.com/nghtmrchld26...talforumsfrm60

[chosenbyone]

Originally Posted by Thad

Do you know the founder and how it all came about ???

I'm really curious about this

?

[simplyme]

Originally Posted by Jeanie

I just got off the phone with Keith and can post the article later-but he said he just read in the paper that the shooter posted his threats on this forum:

http://expentecostals.org/

This is the forum that like to discuss what is said here and often posts some of our members quotes-

I find this amazing that he voiced his threats, what he was planning to do in Col. but no one notified the authorities.**

What do you all think of this?

**Apparently someone was contacted!

What a stupid place! EX-Pentecostals? Ridiculous, lets just call 'em lost losers already.
HOW can they be allowed to post some comments from here, isn't that illegal?

It would've probably helped to have provided the direct link to the actual posts, IF KNOWN, perhaps his username isn't yet known? I haven't read all the posts yet, so someone may have linked this already, sorry.
This 'forum'(?) is disgusting I'd not want to dirty my hands looking for it myself., it can't be of anything edifying whatsoever anyway, the man is gone to his rewards by now., his friends from there will join him one day.

[dizzyde]

Originally Posted by simplyme

What a stupid place! EX-Pentecostals? Ridiculous, lets just call 'em lost losers already.
HOW can they be allowed to post some comments from here, isn't that illegal?

It would've probably helped to have provided the direct link to the actual posts, IF KNOWN, perhaps his username isn't yet known?
This 'forum'(?) is disgusting I'd not want to dirty my hands looking for it myself., it can't be of anything edifying whatsoever anyway, the man is gone to his rewards by now., his friends from there will join him one day.

But you are praying for them, right?

[simplyme]

Originally Posted by He's My Friend

Top News Send to a Friend Printable View Colorado shooter's family 'groping for answers,' praying for victims as services begin
By GEORGE MERRITT and ERIC GORSKI (Associated Press Writers)
From Associated Press
December 12, 2007 2:24 PM EST
DENVER - The family of a young man who went on a deadly shooting rampage in two Colorado religious centers, killing four people before killing himself, said Wednesday that family members are "groping for answers" and praying for the victims' families.

Matthew Murray's family said in the statement that they will hold a private funeral for him later this week.

"We are lost in grief as we prepare to bury our beloved son, Matthew. We loved Matthew with all our hearts, and we are groping for answers as we try in vain to understand the events of last Sunday," the family said.

Two services were being held Wednesday to remember the four people Murray, 24, killed on Sunday when he opened fire first on a missionary center and then on a megachurch some 65 miles (105 kilometers) away.

On Tuesday night, friends and parishioners of Murray's uncle, Phil Abeyta, gathered at the Denver church where he serves as pastor to pray for victims, the Murray family and Matthew Murray.

"They are grateful for your love and support," Abeyta said of the Murray family as he addressed the gathering of about 70 at His Love Fellowship.

The family spent Tuesday quietly, "in reflection and prayer for the families of the victims and those who were injured," Abeyta said.

Murray killed two people at Youth With a Mission, a training center for missionaries in the Denver suburb of Arvada, early Sunday. About 12 hours later, he killed two more people at the New Life Church in Colorado Springs. In between the shootings, Murray is believed to have left several posts on a Web site's forum warning that he wanted to kill Christians.

Joe Istre, president of the Association of Former Pentecostals, which operates the site, told The Associated Press on Tuesday that he and other forum participants had grown familiar with the frequent and disturbingly dark poetry and obsessions of one participant, whose nickname was nghtmrchld26.But when that same author - believed to be Murray - left the posts on the day of the shootings, a forum participant immediately contacted the FBI, Istre said."I'm coming for EVERYONE soon and I WILL be armed to the @%$ teeth and I WILL shoot to kill," one threat posted by nghtmrchld26 said.

"My reaction was disbelief, but then almost horror," Istre said of Murray's violence. [B]"This guy was posting on our forums, and we are a support group out to help people, to try to get them to calm their fears and get them into a productive life. [/B]And here we are conversing with a dude who was a killer."Arvada police spokeswoman Susan Medina said police cannot say with certainty who nghtmrchld26 is. Istre also said his forum agreed to turn over all relevant information, and provided the FBI the Internet Protocol address of nghtmrchld26 to help confirm the poster's identity.

The Denver Post reported Wednesday that Murray also was apparently posting to a different forum under the name DyingChild-65, and may have foretold of his rampage there, too. In one posting, he references one of the killers responsible for the Columbine school massacre, Eric Harris, and the gunman who opened fire at Virginia Tech, Seung-Hui Cho. He also mentioned Ricky Rodriguez, who stabbed a prominent member of a church once known as the Children of God, then shot himself in the head in 2005. The group had been accused of sexually and physically abusing child members during the 1970s and 1980s."Like Cho, Eric Harris, Ricky Rodriguez and others, I'm going out to make a stand for the weak and the defenseless this is for all those young people still caught in the Nightmare of Christianity for all those people who've been abused and mistreated and taken advantage of by this evil sick religion Christian America this is YOUR Columbine," the newspaper quoted the post as saying.

The Gazette of Colorado Springs reported Murray also posted rants under the name "Chrstnghtmr."

Murray, 19, was dismissed from Youth With a Mission in 2002 for what the training center has described only as health reasons. Youth With a Mission maintains an office at New Life Church's World Prayer Center.

An autopsy Tuesday determined that Murray killed himself with a bullet to the head after he was brought down by gunfire from a volunteer security guard at the church, authorities said.

A "support"(?) forum??? For HELP??? Hah, get real! Goodness gracious, what sickness abounds, that young guy was definitely disturbed and look where he went? They should know better than to mess with our LORD and HIS WORD.
Yikes, this sure doesn't play out well for organized religion does it?
Especially Pentecostals, the devil is out for blood and I hate him more than ever, he is desperate, in these last days, well we can readily see that our
LORD
cometh quickly.

[chosenbyone]

Originally Posted by simplyme

What a stupid place! EX-Pentecostals? Ridiculous, lets just call 'em lost losers already.
HOW can they be allowed to post some comments from here, isn't that illegal?

It would've probably helped to have provided the direct link to the actual posts, IF KNOWN, perhaps his username isn't yet known? I haven't read all the posts yet, so someone may have linked this already, sorry.
This 'forum'(?) is disgusting I'd not want to dirty my hands looking for it myself., it can't be of anything edifying whatsoever anyway, the man is gone to his rewards by now., his friends from there will join him one day.

Look up, simplyme...post # 22 has the link.

[simplyme]

OMG, A disciple of satan is what he was, they let anyone post such things there, well its crazy, using the "f" word over and over this guy was mucho enraged inside., claiming abuse from everyone; well he won't bother anyone anymore., but we know there has to be more like him possibly even on that forum.,
LETS PRAY they get help., and return to the ONE GOD the only one that can bring LIGHT into their darkness.

[simplyme]

Originally Posted by dizzyde

But you are praying for them, right?

BUt of course!
Are you?

[nahkoe]

Originally Posted by simplyme

What a stupid place! EX-Pentecostals? Ridiculous, lets just call 'em lost losers already.
HOW can they be allowed to post some comments from here, isn't that illegal?

It would've probably helped to have provided the direct link to the actual posts, IF KNOWN, perhaps his username isn't yet known? I haven't read all the posts yet, so someone may have linked this already, sorry.
This 'forum'(?) is disgusting I'd not want to dirty my hands looking for it myself., it can't be of anything edifying whatsoever anyway, the man is gone to his rewards by now., his friends from there will join him one day.

Yeah, you're right. With attitude like this why wouldn't everyone want to be Pentecostal?

I'll refrain from calling anyone a lost loser thanks..especially those who have been hurt once or twice or thrice already.