Evangelist Johnathan Suber To Preach In A Upci Church Sunday.

[SoCaliUPC]

Thanks for the clarification. However, if that is the way it has been worded then there is some confusion out there. From what I was told was that if the minister left UPC they would have to have the District Board approval to preach. For example....if Suber was to preach at Calvary Tabernacle in Indianapolis, he would need to have the approval from the Indiana District Board to preach in Indiana.

I would like to see the wording on that....for clarification purposes.

[retsambeW]

Originally Posted by SoCaliUPC

Thanks for the clarification. However, if that is the way it has been worded then there is some confusion out there. From what I was told was that if the minister left UPC they would have to have the District Board approval to preach. For example....if Suber was to preach at Calvary Tabernacle in Indianapolis, he would need to have the approval from the Indiana District Board to preach in Indiana.

I would like to see the wording on that....for clarification purposes.

I did read it after posting. I also see where the error in understanding was. Follow my next few lines...

Hypothetically speaking, let's say J Suber is taking the church that another thread mentioned, and instead of re-licensing with UPCI, he remains "out of the mother-ship". Now, this next part is really, really, really hypothetical, because J. Suber doesn't even know I exist, I am sure, but suppose, for a moment, he would issue me an invitation to come and preach for him. With me holding a license, and J. Suber not, I would be required to contact the district he is in, and either find out of he is under question or obtain permission to go.

As a UPC pastor, if he is NOT under question, I am under no obligation to ask anyone if he can preach for me.

[PastorD]

Would we be having this same discussion if it were Phil White preaching in Alabama this weekend?

[SoCaliUPC]

Originally Posted by PastorD

Would we be having this same discussion if it were Phil White preaching in Alabama this weekend?

Pre-Resolution 3....no.

I am just getting some clarification in the way Resolution 3 pans out.

[Scott Hutchinson]

I love bro.Suber and his ministry I don't care what card he holds,he is a blessing and really helps to edify and builds peoples's faith.
I would love to hear him again.

[CC1]

My understanding has always been what SoCaliUPC expressed. There is no probelm with an unlicensed preacher preaching in a UPC church EXCEPT in the case of a preacher who has left the UPC.

In that instance I was always told that the host pastor must have permission from the district and that there must be no objection from neighboring UPC pastors.

I could be wrong of course and perhaps it only applies the other way around, to UPC preachers preaching for exUPC churches / pastors.

[retsambeW]

Originally Posted by CC1

My understanding has always been what SoCaliUPC expressed. There is no probelm with an unlicensed preacher preaching in a UPC church EXCEPT in the case of a preacher who has left the UPC.

In that instance I was always told that the host pastor must have permission from the district and that there must be no objection from neighboring UPC pastors.

I could be wrong of course and perhaps it only applies the other way around, to UPC preachers preaching for exUPC churches / pastors.

As a pastor, I am allowed to have anyone preach for me. I need call no one - UNLESS, someone were indeed UNDER QUESTION, which someone told me, Louisiana did not put J Suber in that category. If there was indeed a circumstance where a minister was under question, I would indeed be foolhardy to preach him as it would indeed violate the manual.

Originally Posted by retsambeW

As a pastor, I am allowed to have anyone preach for me. I need call no one - UNLESS, someone were indeed UNDER QUESTION, which someone told me, Louisiana did not put J Suber in that category. If there was indeed a circumstance where a minister was under question, I would indeed be foolhardy to preach him as it would indeed violate the manual.

What about me? Just something to think about. Res 3 just clarified categories and is not a new rule of UPCI law.

[retsambeW]

Originally Posted by philjones

What about me? Just something to think about. Res 3 just clarified categories and is not a new rule of UPCI law.

How can there be a file with your name on it after all these years? Something to think about! I doubt any such file exists.

I wonder about all the guys still holding license that have done worse deeds....

Originally Posted by retsambeW

How can there be a file with your name on it after all these years? Something to think about! I doubt any such file exists.

I wonder about all the guys still holding license that have done worse deeds....

Surprisingly, I saw the file earlier this year when I approached the DS about the possibilities. He ensured me that there is a copy in the filing cabinet close to JJ's hand and that although I would likely be approved at the district level, the content of the file would get me shot down at the national level. :d

I am accepting of the decisions and moving forward in His will! It is just a shame rules prevent the UPCI from doing the same from time to time.