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Old 03-09-2007, 03:22 PM
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Me too.

If I was going to sell my soul for money, I would want more than that.
Speak for your self bro., Speak for ya sef.
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Old 03-09-2007, 03:30 PM
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Seems like ... there is a story in the Bible where a man sold his gift to Balaak. Selling our worship, our service, our investment ... for a price.

nothing wrong with being blessed for ministry....

But in our area, the local Baptist/Charasmatic wannabe churches... they hire muscians with no expectation for morality. Can you play the drums? They pay about $150 a service to muscians ... singers usually volunteer.

Most have sold out along time ago for something else....anyway... and the money is just icing.

Birthright and blessings for a pottage of bitterness, bread of compromise.

Don't know you coop. But if this seemed to be a logical option... I suppose we all have our baggage...

My prayer, "Lord help me not to reach that point where nothing matters."
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Old 03-09-2007, 03:38 PM
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Seems like ... there is a story in the Bible where a man sold his gift to Balaak. Selling our worship, our service, our investment ... for a price.nothing wrong with being blessed for ministry....

But in our area, the local Baptist/Charasmatic wannabe churches... they hire muscians with no expectation for morality. Can you play the drums? They pay about $150 a service to muscians ... singers usually volunteer.

Most have sold out along time ago for something else....anyway... and the money is just icing.

Birthright and blessings for a pottage of bitterness, bread of compromise.

Don't know you coop. But if this seemed to be a logical option... I suppose we all have our baggage...

My prayer, "Lord help me not to reach that point where nothing matters."
Oh, thats the upc talk'n silly rabbit.
And what is OUR worship mean anyway?
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Old 03-09-2007, 05:51 PM
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Oh...

and is that somehow a response? That is fine. We will each be judged and I am going to do get myself there. Hope we all can make it.
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Old 03-09-2007, 07:46 PM
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I hope he came OUT of what Kenneth Copeland was into. Otherwise I would not go there.
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Old 03-10-2007, 09:38 AM
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Please tell what in the world Kenneth Copeland got into.
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Old 03-10-2007, 09:43 AM
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This was taken from the believersway web sight.
If they are freaks let me know Prax.
I will not get caught up in another upc type.


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In 1999, Scott Johnson, along with his wife, Missy, and three sons, Zachary, Gabriel and Quenten, began BelieversWay Church in Amarillo, Texas. Their vision was to bring the hope of the gospel to West Texas and to teach believers how to find God is specific path for their individual lives.
Prior to beginning their own ministry in Amarillo, Scott and Missy worked for Kenneth Copeland Ministries for more than 20 years. Scott was the Director of Television from 1993-1999. As the television director, Scott did more than produce the Believer's Voice of Victory television programs and KCM's children's movies. He fulfilled one more important segment in the call of God on his life.

Born and raised in the Southwest, Scott was born again and filled with the Holy Spirit by the age of 6. Growing up as the son of a pastor, Scott faithfully used his talents for the Lord. By the age of 13, he was singing every time the church doors were open.

When Scott was a teenager he began to realize the call of God on his life. While attending a Kenneth Copeland Ministries meeting, God began to reveal to him what his life's journey would be in a life of ministry.

In 1979, Scott attended Rhema Bible Training Center in Tulsa, Oklahoma. During this time God directed him to move to Fort Worth, Texas. In a few weeks Scott was on staff at KCM, duplicating Brother Copeland's radio tapes. From singing in Believers' Conventions, to producing his own album, to overseeing the television department, he has continually sought God's will for his life, and obeyed the directives he heard.

When Missy Johnson was 11, she made Jesus the Lord of her life and was filled with the Holy Spirit at a Kenneth Copeland meeting in Fort Worth. What started with a decision to serve God became a lifelong passion.

Missy has a great love for God's people and desires every believer to come up, come out and come over to God's way of life. She longs for people to see God's wisdom and have His blessings overtake them.

This passion was ignited when she was only 13, when she went to work for Kenneth Copeland Ministries. As Gloria's youngest sister, Missy started out with the simplest of jobs, and faithfully served for 20 years. Her last position was as the Marketing and Publications Director, overseeing the production of the monthly magazines, new product development and purchasing all airtime for the Believer's Voice of Victory international television broadcast.

Scott and Missy married in 1984, and together they faithfully served the Copelands, knowing for years the day would come when they would step out into ministry together.

Today, Scott and Missy pastor a growing congregation of believers who hunger for all that God has provided through His covenant. Each day, through CDs, books and personal ministry, they empower individuals to succeed in God's plan for their lives. It's a life they love, a life of purpose and destiny. It is the BelieversWay.
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Old 03-10-2007, 10:21 AM
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You Go, Coop!!!

This seems like just the type of stuff that you would fit right in to.
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Old 03-10-2007, 10:31 AM
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Coop,

I understand where you are at. But, I just don't think I could go to a church where they didn't baptise in Jesus Name, and there was not a HEAVY emphasis on receiving the Holy Ghost with tongues. Sorry. I'm not trying to play the UPC tape, if you know what I mean, but if I were to jump headfirst onto a modern-day PCI bandwagon, I still couldn't do this.
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Old 03-10-2007, 10:36 AM
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Pay the musicians? Uhm, okay.

And then let's not forget the Sunday School teachers, the ushers, the greeters, the folks who do outreach, the locals who clean the church and cut the grass, the praise singers (who, actually are more valuable than the musicians if you think about it.) etc. etc.
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