How wide is the effect of forums in Pentecost? - Page 3

SDG · #21 02-21-2008, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by nahkoe

Granted I searched out forums while trying to develop my beliefs, or figure out what they are, or something. But much of who I am right now and what I believe and live has been shaped by people here and at GNC.

Nahkoe .... no one wants to admit that there has been a battle for minds and hearts .... some have gotten drunk on whining about the other side's agenda ... yet will not admit they have one of their own ... as expressed in their postings and other forum interactions.

Unfortunately, some have resorted to an agenda of censorship as to silence divergent views and it has been expressed in many actions.

Elizabeth · #22 02-21-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by nahkoe

Granted I searched out forums while trying to develop my beliefs, or figure out what they are, or something. But much of who I am right now and what I believe and live has been shaped by people here and at GNC.

Wow that is powerful! I was interested if that was really true--

I was leaning more to thinking it was a combination of life events and forum life that would effect change in ones thinking.

SDG · #23 02-21-2008, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeanie

Wow that is powerful! I was interested if that was really true--

I was leaning more to thinking it was a combination of life events and forum life that would effect change in ones thinking.

Of course it's a result of workings in one's life ... and hopefully careful study and consultation w/ God in prayer. But the forums seem to be influencing some to ask questions and a catalyst in these changes.

Elizabeth · #24 02-21-2008, 01:17 PM

As far as sharing information I think that is where the Apostolic forum's have a lot of power.

I have heard or read remarks made by upstanding Ministers, perhaps in ignorance, say things to diminish the power or credence of things read or talked about on Apostolic forums--I think that is a big mistake.

This is the information age and the internet is powerful!

We are living at a day in time where I think this scripture applies :
Luke 8:17
For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.

Not everything you read on the net is true, but if an event of some sort happens it's around the world within seconds!

Elizabeth · #25 02-21-2008, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Of course it's a result of workings of one's life ... and hopefully careful study and consultation w/ God in prayer. But the forums seem to be influencing some to ask questions and a catalyst in these changes.

And like you said before open ones eyes into seeing a particular view differently.

SDG · #26 02-21-2008, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeanie

As far as sharing information I think that is where the Apostolic forum's have a lot of power.

I have heard or read remarks made by upstanding Ministers perhaps in ignorance say things to diminish the power or credence of things read or talk about on Apostolic forums--I think that is a big mistake.

This is the information age and the internet is powerful!

We are living at a day in time where I think this scripture applies :
Luke 8:17
For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.

Not everything you read on the net is true, but if an event of some sort happens it's around the world within seconds!

Yeah ... these men don't realize that they can no longer monopolize the hearts and minds of people.

My pastor last nite ... floored me when he said ... and I paraphrase.

If I teach something ... go home study and consult w/ God. If I'm wrong ...DON'T OBEY ME. If I'm right .... follow me as I follow Christ.

He's been in Apostolic ministry for over 50 years ... and has morphed into someone who is confident enough to make such a statement.

Sherri · #27 02-21-2008, 01:23 PM

What used to be discussed among ministers in private without fear of anyone being able to "prove" anything that was said, is now broadcast on forums and emails that can be used to make someone accountable. The same things have always been discussed and argued over, it's just now available for everyone to see. It has put fear in alot of people. I'm glad that I only have to answer to God and not worry about what I say on here.

nahkoe · #28 02-21-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Nahkoe .... no one wants to admit that there has been a battle for minds and hearts .... some have gotten drunk on whining about the other side's agenda ... yet will not admit they have one of their own ... as expressed in their postings and other forum interactions.

Unfortunately, some have resorted to an agenda of censorship as to silence divergent views and it has been expressed in many actions.

I know. I've watched as an outsider, it was interesting. Don't think I can quite call myself an outsider anymore.

That in itself is an interesting feeling.

The censorship, whether intentional (I suspect it is to some degree) or not (a good bit of it isn't really something people may be aware they're doing) is part of why I don't feel like I fit in here. I have too many questions, I ask too many, and I don't take answers that fit some agenda or another. I need Jesus, not someone's opinion of what He looks like. Someone's opinion never would have taken me from where I was in June to where I am today.

Pastor Keith · #29 02-21-2008, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

The events of the last few months, in my opinion, have shown that forums like CAF, Wordshare, AFF and SynaD are having an effect in the politics of organizations and in the hearts of Oneness Pentecostals.

Am I being farsighted?

Just recently a friend said that a conservative forum specifically and forums in general were called "garbage" at a ministerial meeting.

It was interesting to see the WWPF react to forum discussions on their website.

What say ye???

The Jeanie is out of the bottle (not talking about my wife) and it can't be put back in. I think the influence is the same as in the news media, it used to be the 3 major networks controled and influenced what news people heard and saw, now with the DrudgeReport, Blogs and YouTube that has all changed and people have access to much more information that is both unbiased and biased but at least they have access and choice. So the choice now is to embrace it, be proactive to spread your side of the story or to put your head in the sand and hope for the best.

In the Spirit of ""Who Moved My Cheese", The cheese has moved, we better move with it.

ManOfWord · #30 02-21-2008, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Yeah ... these men don't realize that they can no longer monopolize the hearts and minds of people.

My pastor last nite ... floored me when he said ... and I paraphrase.

If I teach something ... go home study and consult w/ God. If I'm wrong ...DON'T OBEY ME. If I'm right .... follow me as I follow Christ.

He's been in Apostolic ministry for over 50 years ... and has morphed into someone who is confident enough to make such a statement.

That is awesome!! I say that all the time. I didn't used to be able to say that though. I just wanted people to OBEY me because I demanded it. After all, I was the one wielding the SWORD!!! What a FOOL I was!!

I know I've said this a bazillion times, but I've exchanged my sword for a towel and now I can't believe how much more authority I have.

The TOWEL IS mightier than the sword!!!