The Key to Salvation is... the Book of Acts...

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by revrandy

Joelel,

Your a bit off subject... answer the question..Did the Gallileans on the Day of Pentecost speak in a unknown tongue to them or not?

You know the answer...they did... the Gallileans were speaking in languages of far off lands.... don't evade the issue here..

I will say that if you haven't repented or been baptized in Jesus Name and been filled with the Holy Ghost I pray that you will soon... It will be the greatest experiance of your life...

Yes it was unknown to the 120 but not the 3000 they were speaking to.They were not speaking to God in unknown tongues.They were speaking in tongues of men.It was referred to as other tongues,not unknown.

.2: For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.3

Acts1:4: And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

[Neck]

Originally Posted by revrandy

Without Calvary the Book of Acts would have not Been written.. Most here on AFF already that know that... We are not talking to sinners on this forum...I can understand your point in dealing with Sinners..but here people are educated as to the Work of Calvary and the Book of Acts... but some here try to cheapen the Gospel's Work by negating what the Word of God says we must to do to be complete in Him...

a Good Point to prove though ... Romans...Corinthians and so on were written to folks who had already been filled with the Holy Ghost... who understood what the New Birth was.... many try apply these writings to new believers when preaching salvation leaving Acts out... but in fact just as I wrote to those here on AFF that already believe and are filled with the Holy Ghost... Paul was writing to Churches already filled believers also...

Thanks..

The Jews to this day can not speak the name of God. Because they refused to speak it.

Your ongoing educated walk with God takes you back to the cross of calvary on a daily basis.

Our Acts 2:38 experience took place once in our salvational journey.

Most of the educated folks on this forum.

Have forgotten the preaching of the cross is the power of God!

The power of God to do what?

To save the sinner.

You are not going to win over masses of the denominational church world.\

Nor will you save sinners by preaching a formula first.

You have to preach the cross of calvary.

If the cross of calvary were preached on regular basis.

Such as when you sin you put to death a fresh the Son of God.

Acts 2:38 should always be preached at the end of a sermon preached on the cross.

But many want to open with Acts 2:38.

If I use your educated argument.

Stop preaching Acts 2:38 many on this forum have been hearing it for so long long that page is completly worn out in our bibles...

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by revrandy

And when the 3000 who were filled with the Holy Ghost do you think that they spoke in a Known tongue to them?

It don't say they did.It don't say they spoke in known or unknown or other.

38: Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39: For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
40: And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
41: Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
42: And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
43: And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.
44: And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
45: And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
46: And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
47: Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by revrandy

Following the Book...and using the Key to walk thru the Door into the Throne Room of God...

Repentance...

Baptism in Jesus Name...

and the Infilling of the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in an unknown tongue...

Anything else is a Half-truth, if not false Doctrine...

The 120 including Mary the mother of Jesus and his brothers were there...

Even Mary who carried the Christ child had to be filled with the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in other tongues....

Three steps is a complete misnomer..it is the entire experiance of the infilling and indwelling of God's Spirit in Man....

Anything else is simply not acceptable... how could it be??

Unless you take out the entire Book of the Acts of the Apostles...

Then the Comforter is of none importance and effect only impressionistic on the soul man instead of the infilling of the Holy Ghost...

God is the judge we know..but when it comes that time for me and you to stand before him... What will your answer be when you tell him you didn't believe His Spirit in You was necessary for Salvation... and His Plan wasn't your Plan??

I will tell you...YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN!! And it's not just acceptance of a Good Word...but you MUST BE FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST!..... It's the only way a Supernatural Change will come into to your life...

period...

I'm sorry if you think tongues is off the subject,but your the one who started the subject salvation is the book of Acts and said you receive the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues.I just showed the scripture where God said he would pour out his Spirit and they would Prophecy and have dreams and visions.Why can't people be filled withe the Holy Ghost and prophecy and have dreams and visions as God said ?

[Brother Price]

The Key To Salvation is found within the Gospels. Those keys were given to Peter, and he preached the Gospel in Acts. Afterwards, when the hearts of the people were pricked, Peter told them to repent, and be baptized for (because of) the remission of sins in the name of Jesus Christ.

In truth, the truth of salvation is found in Ephesians 2:8-9, the most ignored scriptures in Pentecost today...

For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. {Ephesians 2:8-9}

It is by the favor of God we have been saved because we have believed. Nothing of our own physical works could or can save us, and nothing another man does to us can save us. It is God's gift of love poured out upon our heart through Christ. It is not through what we have done or what another does to us, so that no man shall be able to brag and say that they had a hand in our salvation.

[Brother Price]

One additional point. Throughout the Acts, men and women were filled with the Spirit before their baptism. Jesus said His disciples would be the ones to receive the Holy Ghost. Thus, one must be His disciple to get the baptism of the Holy Ghost.

How could God dwell in an unclean vessel according to modern Pentecost theory? Does this mean that, prior to these souls being baptized, God had fellowship with their sins?

[JamDat]

Originally Posted by Neckstadt

That whole speach without once mentioning the Cross of Calvary.

You go by way of Acts 2:38 once.

You do not dip again when falling short in your walk.

You go back to the plan of Gods salvation.

His shedding "His" blood for you, before the foundations of the World.

Some spend their entire ministry preaching about what they have to do to be saved.

And gloss right over what God did for us...

I know you assume the world knows as you mention Acts 2:38 you lump in the cross by repentance.

The sinner on the street has no way of knowing Repentance equals the cross...

You simply need to preach Jesus Christ and him crucified.

To them that believe "The preaching of the Cross". It is the power of God.

Do not put your repentance as a type of the Cross in the literal meaning of what Christ did for you.

Get a vision of the sorrow, shame and anguish he suffered for you.

Then repent and .....

SO many want to repent and call that their cross experience.

Your belief is Jesus dying for your sins preceeds repentance.

Otherwise your repentance is sorrow and not a turning of one's heart from sin towards the Cross of Calvary....

There is a deeper meaning for me regarding the cross of calvary then just a step in a salvational formula...

I do not overlook Acts 2:38.

I preach the cross as the starting place for a sinner to repent.

How will they know the cross if all you preach is Acts 2:38.



Period.

Sorry bub, but he didn't single out Acts 2:38. If you reread his post he used the entire book of Acts. If you can't find calvary in chapter 2 between verses 22 and 37 you are willingly being ignorant.

The key to salvation is in the book of Acts the whole book and what RevRandy posted is the gospel truth.

[drummerboy_dave]

This thread is great.

I don't see the problem here.

Jesus is the door. Peter shows us the key to open it.

Period.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by revrandy

Without Calvary the Book of Acts would have not Been written.. Most here on AFF already that know that... We are not talking to sinners on this forum...I can understand your point in dealing with Sinners..but here people are educated as to the Work of Calvary and the Book of Acts... but some here try to cheapen the Gospel's Work by negating what the Word of God says we must to do to be complete in Him...

a Good Point to prove though ... Romans...Corinthians and so on were written to folks who had already been filled with the Holy Ghost... who understood what the New Birth was.... many try apply these writings to new believers when preaching salvation leaving Acts out... but in fact just as I wrote to those here on AFF that already believe and are filled with the Holy Ghost... Paul was writing to Churches already filled believers also...

Thanks..

Amen!

Romans 1:7 "To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints:"

I Corinthians 1:2 "Unto the church of God which is at Corinth,"

II Corinthians 1:1 "Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, unto the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints which are in all Achaia:

Galatians 1:2 "And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:"

Ephesians 1:1 "Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:"

Philippians 1:1 "Paul and Timotheus, the servants of Jesus Christ, to all the saints in Christ Jesus which are at Philippi,"

Colossians 1:2 "To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse:"

I Thessalonians 1:1 "Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ:"

II Thessalonians 1:1 "Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ:"

I Peter 1: 2 "Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.'

II Peter 1:1 "Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:"

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by drummerboy_dave

This thread is great.

I don't see the problem here.

Jesus is the door. Peter shows us the key to open it.

Period.

Period!!