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02-28-2008, 04:16 PM
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Re: Irvin Baxter On Daystar
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Bro. Baxter said if there is a peace treaty signed in the middle east this year it is going to lead to the 7yr tribulation-that is a pretty weighty statement.
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Originally Posted by Revelationist
In 1993 he made the same statement... that we were seven years from the tribulation.... sent out a special End Time addition to warn the world....
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Do you all have sources with direct quotes? The reason I ask is I have often heard him say something close to that but he often says 'it COULD lead to...."
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02-28-2008, 04:27 PM
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Re: Irvin Baxter On Daystar
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Do you all have sources with direct quotes? The reason I ask is I have often heard him say something close to that but he often says 'it COULD lead to...."
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Right. He said IT COULD BE the treaty back years ago. He is always careful like that.
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02-29-2008, 07:06 AM
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Re: Irvin Baxter On Daystar
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Right. He said IT COULD BE the treaty back years ago. He is always careful like that.
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I haven't really followed him for quite some time so I can't really comment on anything of his that is current. However, the careful approach of qualifying the "predictions" is generally a practice of most endtime evangelists. This obviously protects them from the inevitable failure of the theories the were discussion.
I question the whole program. While it's good to throw around ideas and investigate mysteries, when the thrust of an evangelitic appeal is based upon doomsday scenarios then it seems that people end up getting cynical and burned out with the whole thing.
The apostles warned of a judgement to come and Jesus Himself made very specific predictions that in fact appear to have at least partially come to pass in the first century (disclaimer- I'm no Preterist). But the overall thrust of their think and living was centered around what Jesus had done for us all.
We can find examples where some prophecies have been fulfilled repeatedly. This is one reason that I have come to the conclusion that the Bible is intended to tell us what happens more than what will happen.
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03-03-2008, 10:18 AM
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Re: Irvin Baxter On Daystar
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Right. He said IT COULD BE the treaty back years ago. He is always careful like that.
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Exactly! He never claims to know for sure - he always says just want he "thinks" will happen.
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02-28-2008, 07:49 PM
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Re: Irvin Baxter On Daystar
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Do you all have sources with direct quotes? The reason I ask is I have often heard him say something close to that but he often says 'it COULD lead to...."
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Prax.... I do have to agree with you. Last night I heard him preach and every thing he said was pretty much... COULD... he never said for sure positively it would happen...
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02-28-2008, 08:00 PM
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Re: Irvin Baxter On Daystar
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In 1993 he made the same statement... that we were seven years from the tribulation.... sent out a special End Time addition to warn the world....
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With all due respect, Jeanie and Revelation,
Irvin believes the Great Trib is only three and a half years. The seven years he marks from the confirmation of the covenant to the Battle of Armageddon. I'm just going to wait and see.
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02-29-2008, 06:49 AM
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Re: Irvin Baxter On Daystar
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In 1993 he made the same statement... that we were seven years from the tribulation.... sent out a special End Time addition to warn the world....
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I have heard Bro. Baxter quite a few times, and most of what he teaches are theories, suppositions & possibilities. Rarely have I heard him make a definitive, absolute statement. Furthermore, he tries to understand and interpret existing prophecies--he doesn't claim to be a "prophet." Big difference.
There is nothing wrong with looking into interesting aspects of prophetic scripture and trying to match them up with current events. I don't agree with all of his theories, but I think he's a very smart, interesting man, and I've never found any reason to disparage him.
His publications are similar in tone to his teaching.
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02-29-2008, 10:13 AM
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Re: Irvin Baxter On Daystar
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I have heard Bro. Baxter quite a few times, and most of what he teaches are theories, suppositions & possibilities. Rarely have I heard him make a definitive, absolute statement. Furthermore, he tries to understand and interpret existing prophecies--he doesn't claim to be a "prophet." Big difference.
There is nothing wrong with looking into interesting aspects of prophetic scripture and trying to match them up with current events. I don't agree with all of his theories, but I think he's a very smart, interesting man, and I've never found any reason to disparage him.
His publications are similar in tone to his teaching.
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He did use the could be word, but he also used it to bring in extra revenue because he wanted to make more mail outs to warn the world... I'm sure the 93 scare helped to finance his move and new facilities...
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02-29-2008, 10:26 AM
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Re: Irvin Baxter On Daystar
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He did use the could be word, but he also used it to bring in extra revenue because he wanted to make more mail outs to warn the world... I'm sure the 93 scare helped to finance his move and new facilities...
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And because of the fact that the world could end tomorrow they have discounted most of their older stock 50% so that you can get this material before it's too late!
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03-03-2008, 10:20 AM
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Re: Irvin Baxter On Daystar
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He did use the could be word, but he also used it to bring in extra revenue because he wanted to make more mail outs to warn the world... I'm sure the 93 scare helped to finance his move and new facilities...
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If you guys only knew................you guys are always so quick to throw stones when you have NO CLUE what goes on behind the scenes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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