It's Time To Escape The Borg

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Matt,

I believe in holiness with all my heart, but this is not a holiness issue any longer. This is about an insatiable thirst for power and control. It is about controlling the direction of this organization. There is a desire to melt every original and creative thought into oblivion.

I will rail against it at every opportunity. This is not about good holy men of God who take stands based on biblical principle. This is about hijackers.

The problem is, in doing so, you become as divisive as the ones you oppose.

[rrford]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

Sure it is but not with out cause. It only matters what and to what extent you choose to stigmatize normal behavior as sin deserving of hell-fire damnation or even worse, separation from the fellowship.

But in the converse, to legitimize sinful behavior as normal is just as fallacious.

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by rrford

The problem with factions dividing from the body because the body is too liberal or too conservative is that once they have separated they then create within their new body the same lines of division. It may take a while, but it will happen.

...and how many different factions of muslims are there? It seems there is a new one with a catchy new ---AKHMAN JIHAD! name every day each more radical than the next!

[rrford]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

...and how many different factions of muslims are there? It seems there is a new one with a catchy new ---AKHMAN JIHAD! name every day each more radical than the next!

But I have a feeling if really put to the test, the majority would rally around a visionary leader.

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

Sure it is but not with out cause. It only matters what and to what extent you choose to stigmatize normal behavior as sin deserving of hell-fire damnation or even worse, separation from the fellowship.

It is really hard for me to read anything you might post as serious when all I can seem to see it that bobble head skeleton.

[rrford]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

It is really hard for me to read anything you might post as serious when all I can seem to see it that bobble head skeleton.

Not sure it is the bobble head skeleton for me...

Originally Posted by rrford

But I have a feeling if really put to the test, the majority would rally around a visionary leader.

There is no doubt.

Care to speculate if the environment is conducive within any segment of the UPCI that will allow the rise of such a visionary? Maybe the Louisiana district?

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by rrford

But in the converse, to legitimize sinful behavior as normal is just as fallacious.

The problem is that our young people don't know the difference between going to a movie and getting drunk or having oral sex after all, the thrill and the adrenalin levels are exactly the same because we have stigmatized both behaviors as being equal.

One is certainly normal, and the two are most certainly not.

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

It is really hard for me to read anything you might post as serious when all I can seem to see it that bobble head skeleton.

Oh, and I suppose a basset hound driving a car with his ears flapping in the wind is any better?

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by rrford

Not sure it is the bobble head skeleton for me...

Sure, you are like the tin-man, but YOU can see behind the curtain...