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05-22-2008, 08:58 PM
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Re: Baptismal Regeneration?
Of course I agree water baptism is because of what He did.It's an act of faith.
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05-22-2008, 09:04 PM
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Re: Baptismal Regeneration?
Here is something to consider Jesus alone can only forgive a person of their sins.
If a preacher could do something to you to forgive or remit sins,then men could have ability to forgive sins,then if that were possible Jesus would have died in vain.
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05-22-2008, 09:08 PM
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Re: Baptismal Regeneration?
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
There is no virtue in H20 but at the same time we can't reduce MARK.16:16 to a mere suggestion either.
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I would never want to get on your bad side by offending you because you are one of the kindest people of this site.
Neverhteless, I would say to your post that you are right in that Mark 16:16 is a command of the Lord. Nevertheless, we go back to Paul's argument about how Abraham was not justified by circumsion but by his faith years before the circumsion. According do the Dake bible concordance there are 1050 commands in the New Testament for the New Testament believer. I doubt very seriously that we are in accordance with all of these commands all of the time. That is why we trust in HIM. I do think we are still write in trying to convince trinitarians that they should be baptized in Jesus name because it was a command from the Lord. Nevertheless, if they do not I am not going to disdain them.
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If ye believe not that I AM, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24
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No real problem exists over the use of "The Name" in everthing else done in the Church. Why then should there exist great controversy over the use of the "The Name of the Godhead" in water baptism?
Kevin J. Conner The Name of God p. 92
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05-22-2008, 09:10 PM
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Re: Baptismal Regeneration?
Only Jesus can forgive sins, but I believe baptism is a command of Scripture. Refuse to be water baptized in Jesus name at your own risk.
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05-22-2008, 09:17 PM
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Re: Baptismal Regeneration?
Look at it this way if one believes in Christ they will desire to obey Christ.
No offense but Dake has some good points,but on alot of things he was nutty as a fruitcake.
It takes alot to get on my bad side disagreeing with me isn't one of them.
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05-22-2008, 09:18 PM
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Re: Baptismal Regeneration?
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Only Jesus can forgive sins, but I believe baptism is a command of Scripture. Refuse to be water baptized in Jesus name at your own risk. 
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I concur.
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05-22-2008, 09:26 PM
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Re: Baptismal Regeneration?
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
Look at it this way if one believes in Christ they will desire to obey Christ.
No offense but Dake has some good points,but on alot of things he was nutty as a fruitcake.
It takes alot to get on my bad side disagreeing with me isn't one of them.
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I do not agree with Dake on all his points either. But all he did was go throught the NT and categorize all the times and things Christians were commanded to do.
By the way to try to bring down an argument by criticizing the author of the argument is an AD HOMINEM fallacy. It is a fallacy because it does not direct the specific point of the argument, it demeans the character of the author of the argument. By so doing it skirts the true issue.
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If ye believe not that I AM, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24
Mone me, amabo te, si erro
No real problem exists over the use of "The Name" in everthing else done in the Church. Why then should there exist great controversy over the use of the "The Name of the Godhead" in water baptism?
Kevin J. Conner The Name of God p. 92
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05-22-2008, 09:29 PM
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Re: Baptismal Regeneration?
I have a partial Dake Bible, just the NT and Psalms. I don't really use it. Have you read some of the things he has to say on the nature of God (trinity)?
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05-22-2008, 09:35 PM
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Re: Baptismal Regeneration?
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I have a partial Dake Bible, just the NT and Psalms. I don't really use it. Have you read some of the things he has to say on the nature of God (trinity)?
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I have read a few things. To be honest with you, I skip over those parts because he says that the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost all their own spirit forms. I do not agree with that.
What did you think of his trinity statements?
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If ye believe not that I AM, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24
Mone me, amabo te, si erro
No real problem exists over the use of "The Name" in everthing else done in the Church. Why then should there exist great controversy over the use of the "The Name of the Godhead" in water baptism?
Kevin J. Conner The Name of God p. 92
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05-22-2008, 09:36 PM
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Re: Baptismal Regeneration?
Dake is like Mattew Henry you chew the meat and try the fat away.
I personally think Dakes bible is too overpriced.Footnotes are good and are often helpful,but they themselves aren't the inspired scripture.Same with reading Bernard or anybody else.
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