It's Either You or Me

[Old Paths]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Isn't it odd that they guy with the avatar of David killing Goliath, is complaining that people shouldn’t protect themselves because God will?

David should have just put the sling away and walked down there and said "Go ahead, Goliath, take your best shot God will protect me." And then waited for God to strike Goliath dead.

Odd?

Come on into the New Covenant, Sir.

If David would have been in the New Testament, had the Holy Ghost and known the Name of Jesus, he would not have needed the sling.





Matt 28:18-20

18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
KJV

[Old Paths]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

Is it evil to keep harm from coming to someone that is defenseless, helpless, or vuranable? In so doing I am not rendering evil for evil, I'm doing good against evil.


Mess with me and I'll pray the Lord protects me. Mess with my family and you better pray the Lord protects you.

WOW!

What a wonderful Christ like attitude.

TIC


Matt 5:39-46

39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.

41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.

42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
KJV

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Old Paths

Odd?

Come on into the New Covenant, Sir.

If David would have been in the New Testament, had the Holy Ghost and known the Name of Jesus, he would not have needed the sling.





Matt 28:18-20

18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
KJV

I didn't read that part where He said, "Become a pacifist." I would pray that the Lord would be with me and help the bullet fly as true as the stone from David's sling. Keith already said it's one thing to be attacked for the sake of the Gospel it another thing to defend oneself and ones family from a lunatic.

[Old Paths]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

I didn't read that part where He said, "Become a pacifist." I would pray that the Lord would be with me and help the bullet fly as true as the stone from David's sling. Keith already said it's one thing to be attacked for the sake of the Gospel it another thing to defend oneself and ones family from a lunatic.

Hmmmmmmmmm


Don't you believe that Jesus, our Example in all things, was a "pacifist"?

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Old Paths

Hmmmmmmmmm


Don't you believe that Jesus, our Example in all things, was a "pacifist"?

Nope.

[Old Paths]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Nope.

AB SO LUTE LY AMAZING!

The Prince of Peace is not a "pacifist".

WOW!

The things some people believe.

[jediwill83]

Had a friend from Chicago who used to say that thou shalt not kill included ANY killing.I was like suuure and in the next breath they are conquering and wiping out the inhabitants of Canaan.'God? U want us to do what to who?' 'But u just said.....oh never mind'shrugs'

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

I didn't read that part where He said, "Become a pacifist." I would pray that the Lord would be with me and help the bullet fly as true as the stone from David's sling. Keith already said it's one thing to be attacked for the sake of the Gospel it another thing to defend oneself and ones family from a lunatic.

Thank-you!

Has anyone read this post from Keith on the other thread? He never received a response to it.

Originally Posted by keith4him

I thought this to be a interesting scripture regarding personal safety and arming oneself.

Luke 22:36Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

Anyone care to guess what a sword was used for?

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by Old Paths

WOW!

What a wonderful Christ like attitude.

TIC


Matt 5:39-46

39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.

41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.

42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
KJV

I have personally "turned the other cheek" and will do my best to continue to do so. I just think it's evil to allow unchecked harm to come to my family. I don't believe that force is the first and best option. I would always give a person a chance to go about his or her business someplace else. I will also pray for them, but it will not do them any good for me to allow them to commit some sin against my wife or daughter's. Are my possessions worth killing someone over? Not hardly. But I do believe I am given a responsibility to protect my family from harm, both physical and spiritual.

[1Corinth2v4]

Originally Posted by Old Paths

AB SO LUTE LY AMAZING!

The Prince of Peace is not a "pacifist".

WOW!

The things some people believe.

Old Paths,

Amazing, isn't it!