Outlawing Gay "Discrimination" - Page 3

U376977 · #21 06-13-2008, 06:17 AM

Would you support such a law that targets the idiots who "preach" at soliders funerals, even though they were not gay. I think his name is Phelps?? How could that law be written so as to exclude a ligimate group who wanted to witness in front of a gay bar? Or, who passed out tracts in a gay neighborhood. There are some churches who have this type of ministry and it is not hate--it is Godly love.

stmatthew · #22 06-13-2008, 06:31 AM

This is just another step to silence ANY witness Christians have. The goal is to first minimize the voice of the church, and then to silence the voice of the church.

Praxeas · #23 06-13-2008, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by U376977

Would you support such a law that targets the idiots who "preach" at soliders funerals, even though they were not gay. I think his name is Phelps?? How could that law be written so as to exclude a ligimate group who wanted to witness in front of a gay bar? Or, who passed out tracts in a gay neighborhood. There are some churches who have this type of ministry and it is not hate--it is Godly love.

How about just making it illegal to protest or otherwise disrupt a funeral?

TRFrance · #24 06-13-2008, 01:18 PM

Its only going to get worse and worse. It's only a matter of time....
I can envision a day when Christian websites will be outlawed and/or shut down for "homophobia".

The devil is definitely busy.

My Own Eyes · #25 06-13-2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by U376977

Would you support such a law that targets the idiots who "preach" at soliders funerals, even though they were not gay. I think his name is Phelps?? How could that law be written so as to exclude a ligimate group who wanted to witness in front of a gay bar? Or, who passed out tracts in a gay neighborhood. There are some churches who have this type of ministry and it is not hate--it is Godly love.

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Originally Posted by stmatthew

This is just another step to silence ANY witness Christians have. The goal is to first minimize the voice of the church, and then to silence the voice of the church.

Why can't churches just preach Jesus, and let Jesus deal with people's sins?

Isn't that supposed to be what the Holy Ghost is all about? Teaching and Guiding, and Counseling?

I can't understand it. I have never met a group that focus on the Baptism of the Spirit more than Apostolics, yet they seem to lack the faith that it is Strong enough to talk to those he inhabits.

TRFrance · #26 06-13-2008, 01:26 PM

from the article:

" Religious publishers, he acknowledged, could be accused under the law for publishing biblical condemnation of homosexuality. Colorado Springs, where Focus in located, also is home to the huge Christian publishing operations of NavPress and the International Bible Society.
"There are those who simply by publishing Christian materials could find themselves charged with a violation of this statute," he said. "

also...

"The law exempts churches, but that's not good, that's an insult. I.E., bigotry is allowed only in churches. Whereas every other place of public accommodation including bookstores, retail & wholesale businesses, etc. cannot sell or even 'give away' anything that would advocate discrimination [against] gay adoption, homosexual marriage, etc.," Enyart said.

Why would any Christian think this is a good law? Strange.

OnTheFritz · #27 06-13-2008, 01:40 PM

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Democracy is better than being ruled by one person, but it will never be the Theocracy that was intended.

Guess that's why Jesus was adamant about overthrowing Rome. He was shooting for a Theocracy. Or maybe his kingdom is not of this world.

Praxeas · #28 06-13-2008, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by My Own Eyes

Why can't churches just preach Jesus, and let Jesus deal with people's sins?

Isn't that supposed to be what the Holy Ghost is all about? Teaching and Guiding, and Counseling?

I can't understand it. I have never met a group that focus on the Baptism of the Spirit more than Apostolics, yet they seem to lack the faith that it is Strong enough to talk to those he inhabits.

Should we preach repentance? I mean what does "just preach Jesus" mean?

I thought the issue here was those the Spirit does NOT inhabit.

BTW a funny thing: I was reading some epistles...letters to the church (those that the Spirit is IN) and Paul constantly reminds them what sins are and what the fruit are. I don't know why....I guess according to your logic Paul did not think the Spirit was strong enough?

Rico · #29 06-13-2008, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by My Own Eyes

Why can't churches just preach Jesus, and let Jesus deal with people's sins?

Isn't that supposed to be what the Holy Ghost is all about? Teaching and Guiding, and Counseling?

I can't understand it. I have never met a group that focus on the Baptism of the Spirit more than Apostolics, yet they seem to lack the faith that it is Strong enough to talk to those he inhabits.

AMEN

Esther · #30 06-13-2008, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Really? Out side the walls of a church they are? Where? most churches today don't even target them INSIDE the church.

It's amazing to me to see...what I assume is a Christian, saying GOOD to secular anti-Christian laws....just amazing.

Christians are their own worse enemies when it comes to this kind of thinking

Right on Praxeas