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Old 07-29-2008, 07:00 PM
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Re: Do You Believe In A Literal Fiery Hell?

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It's the StMatt complex.
Well GET OVER IT and move on.
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Old 07-29-2008, 07:03 PM
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I can't move on. Really.
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Old 07-29-2008, 07:19 PM
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Yeah.. God revealed hell to some charismatic flakes... wonder why He didn't bother to correct their trinity doctrine..
Actually I think that your comment is absolute proof that the oneness/trinity debate is absolutely worthless.

While I would agree that it is arbitrary to accept that God revealed hell to them...I mean how can you prove they are lying, you can't argue against the 90 Minutes in Heaven guy. He was literally dead for 90 minutes with State Troopers as the witness.

This guy is a Baptist (Oh it hurts to even write it ), so while you may not accept his story you can't deny his physical death. We all know, medically speaking, that you cannot be dead for 90 minutes and be revived. If a person were the severity of brain damage would cause them to be a vegtable.

So it is interesting that in this guys experience he was not sent back to get all those God forsaken Trinitarians baptized the correct way.
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Old 07-29-2008, 07:41 PM
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I personally believe that when the Bible speaks of this fiery place commonly known as Hell is very real and that it is burning even now and that it will burn forevermore.

What do you believe concerning the doctrine of Everlasting Hell?
Yes. And we are called to preach against sin and warn souls against walking into such a place.
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Old 07-29-2008, 08:03 PM
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I personally believe that when the Bible speaks of this fiery place commonly known as Hell is very real and that it is burning even now and that it will burn forevermore.

What do you believe concerning the doctrine of Everlasting Hell?
O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out! For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen. (Rom. 11:33, 36)



For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. (Is. 55:8-9)



The traditional hell doctrine is a doctrine of men, and it is not the thoughts of God. Here is what God thought of Israel sacrificing there children to the idol Molech:

(Jeremiah 32:35) And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.

So, you think burning His children in a fiery pit has come to His mind?????
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Old 07-29-2008, 08:12 PM
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Actually I think that your comment is absolute proof that the oneness/trinity debate is absolutely worthless.

While I would agree that it is arbitrary to accept that God revealed hell to them...I mean how can you prove they are lying, you can't argue against the 90 Minutes in Heaven guy. He was literally dead for 90 minutes with State Troopers as the witness.

This guy is a Baptist (Oh it hurts to even write it ), so while you may not accept his story you can't deny his physical death. We all know, medically speaking, that you cannot be dead for 90 minutes and be revived. If a person were the severity of brain damage would cause them to be a vegtable.

So it is interesting that in this guys experience he was not sent back to get all those God forsaken Trinitarians baptized the correct way.
Please. Stop the insanity.
The Oneness/Trinity debate is far from "worthless".

Besides, belief in the Oneness of God is based on solid scripture, not any man's experience. Last time I checked, our theology is supposed to be based on rightly dividing the word.I don't care what the man is professing that his experience was; none of what he says negates the fact that the Trinity is false doctrine.

Your words seem to imply that if a Trinitarian claims they had a particular experience with God, we should somehow set aside our adherence to proper theology, since such theology is "worthless". Such an attitude is not only unscriptural, but is extremely dangerous.
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Old 07-29-2008, 08:25 PM
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Old 07-29-2008, 08:32 PM
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When Michael withstood Lucifer all he said was "the Lord rebuke thee"
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Re: Do You Believe In A Literal Fiery Hell?

Yes I believe in a literal hell fire. Souls will be cast into it (lake of fire) where they will suffer and eventually perish, cease to exist.

I base it on the words of Yeshua the Messiah:

28: And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Matt. 10:28

Only the overcomers escape hell.
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I personally believe that when the Bible speaks of this fiery place commonly known as Hell is very real and that it is burning even now and that it will burn forevermore.

What do you believe concerning the doctrine of Everlasting Hell?
I believe in a literal fiery hell and I believe I don't want to go and find out if my beliefs are true or not.
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