Re: Murderer Pastor's Wife Regains Custody of Chil
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Originally Posted by Baron1710
Think about getting 12 people totally fooled at the same time. It might happen but it would be rare. I remember one jury that I watched all the way through in a case the ACLJ was trying against a Planned Parenthood security gaurd. There was on woman who was more concerned with what us interns were doing than with the trial he I.Q. probably wasn't high enough for her to be executed, no way she had any idea what was going on. but she was one out of eight or nine whatever it was not the whole jury.
Baron, just look at some of the case evidence. I guarantee you that she would not be free today if you had been on that jury. Some people are just not convicted for a myriad of reasons...they just look too innocent, they can appeal to emotions, etc. Just wait til the "American Justice" episode is done on this one.
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Re: Murderer Pastor's Wife Regains Custody of Chil
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Originally Posted by Baron1710
Sure they can. There is this thing called resonable doubt, that just grabs ahold of them sometimes.
It only grabbed our two "not guilty's" for about four hours and they were also convinced of the woman's guilt.
Thankfully she chose to have the judge set her sentance so we didn't have to do that.
Even though she deserved whatever punishment she got for taking a young man's life it was heart rending knowing that whatever happened this 56 year old woman was going to spend the rest of her productive life behind bars.
As the jury foreman I had to stand and read the verdict with her staring at me. However remembering the crime scene photos and autopsy photos we had to view I had no problem doing it.
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Re: Murderer Pastor's Wife Regains Custody of Chil
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Originally Posted by tstew
Baron, just look at some of the case evidence. I guarantee you that she would not be free today if you had been on that jury. Some people are just not convicted for a myriad of reasons...they just look too innocent, they can appeal to emotions, etc. Just wait til the "American Justice" episode is done on this one.
Yup. She is this mousy shy little 30ish bookworm looking woman I am sure they felt sorry for. I mean she is a widow after all !!!!! Who doesn't feel sorry for a widow?
__________________ "I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
Re: Murderer Pastor's Wife Regains Custody of Chil
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Originally Posted by Rico
It's always easy to try to second guess what a jury decides.
Rico, I've seen enough of the evidence. In general, I do have respect for our legal system, but I almost threw something through my monitor when I heard the verdict and sentence.
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Re: Murderer Pastor's Wife Regains Custody of Chil
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Originally Posted by tstew
Rico, I've seen enough of the evidence. In general, I do have respect for our legal system, but I almost threw something through my monitor when I heard the verdict and sentence.
I was shocked. I figured small town Tennessee would nail her.
She was dating some idiot that lived here in the Nashville area (she was working for his brother's dry cleaning store while awaiting trial) and he would give interviews to the local TV station. He was a goober who obviously just dated her for the publicity. He would insinuate they were....ah...intimate leading up to her trial for the murder of her husband.
__________________ "I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
Re: Murderer Pastor's Wife Regains Custody of Chil
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Originally Posted by CC1
I was shocked. I figured small town Tennessee would nail her.
She was dating some idiot that lived here in the Nashville area (she was working for his brother's dry cleaning store while awaiting trial) and he would give interviews to the local TV station. He was a goober who obviously just dated her for the publicity. He would insinuate they were....ah...intimate leading up to her trial for the murder of her husband.
There was so much wrong in that case that I am still fired up about it.
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Re: Murderer Pastor's Wife Regains Custody of Chil
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Originally Posted by CC1
It only grabbed our two "not guilty's" for about four hours and they were also convinced of the woman's guilt.
Thankfully she chose to have the judge set her sentance so we didn't have to do that.
Even though she deserved whatever punishment she got for taking a young man's life it was heart rending knowing that whatever happened this 56 year old woman was going to spend the rest of her productive life behind bars.
As the jury foreman I had to stand and read the verdict with her staring at me. However remembering the crime scene photos and autopsy photos we had to view I had no problem doing it.
What your telling us is the system worked.
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