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10-09-2008, 05:49 PM
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Re: When will the US Become Completely Socialistic
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WASHINGTON - The White House said on Wednesday it was "despicable" that American International Group Inc. executives spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on a posh California retreat just days after getting a federal bailout.
Lawmakers investigating the meltdown of AIG said the retreat didn't include anyone from the financial products division that nearly drove the company under, but they were still enraged that executives of AIG's main U.S. life insurance subsidiary spent $440,000 on the retreat, complete with spa treatments, banquets and golf outings.
Economic collaspe? Not if these guys can help it. We may become the biggest group of serfs cleaning these men's toliets. But the sad thing is these people will be replaced with others just like them.
Keep preaching the truth as hard as you can!!! Holiness or hell!
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This thread is not about economic despair... or whatever it is that says... my monitor is too small to read that...
This is about economic progressiveness vs conservatism....
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10-09-2008, 07:25 PM
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Re: When will the US Become Completely Socialistic
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
WASHINGTON - The White House said on Wednesday it was "despicable" that American International Group Inc. executives spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on a posh California retreat just days after getting a federal bailout.
Lawmakers investigating the meltdown of AIG said the retreat didn't include anyone from the financial products division that nearly drove the company under, but they were still enraged that executives of AIG's main U.S. life insurance subsidiary spent $440,000 on the retreat, complete with spa treatments, banquets and golf outings.
Economic collaspe? Not if these guys can help it. We may become the biggest group of serfs cleaning these men's toliets. But the sad thing is these people will be replaced with others just like them.
Keep preaching the truth as hard as you can!!! Holiness or hell!
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
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They should spend that bailout money on padding the 401ks and other investment accounts of the people who are going to be hurt the most by this then make it possible for them to move their monies to somewhere safer for the moment. Giving the billions of money to people like THAT? that is as risky as the loans they gave to illegal immigrants who, btw, I heard on the radio make up several MILLION in forclosures...while most Americans had a hard time getting those loans to begin with.
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10-09-2008, 03:35 PM
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Re: When will the US Become Completely Socialistic
First, we are not friends - that I know of.
Second, American sovereignty is dead.
That is the difference.
Our founders are spinning in their graves.
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10-09-2008, 03:37 PM
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Re: When will the US Become Completely Socialistic
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First, we are not friends - that I know of.
Second, American sovereignty is dead.
That is the difference.
Our founders are spinning in their graves.
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Every large power fails eventually but they all don't lose their sovereignity. Look at England.
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10-09-2008, 03:37 PM
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Re: When will the US Become Completely Socialistic
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First, we are not friends - that I know of.
Second, American sovereignty is dead.
That is the difference.
Our founders are spinning in their graves.
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So how are you charting your future?
What approach are you taking to best provide for your family in the months and years ahead?
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10-09-2008, 03:51 PM
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Re: When will the US Become Completely Socialistic
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So how are you charting your future?
What approach are you taking to best provide for your family in the months and years ahead?
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Gee, that's a rather private matter isn't it?
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10-09-2008, 04:03 PM
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Re: When will the US Become Completely Socialistic
The economy is not America, the government is not America. The people that stand for what is America still exist and the fact that congress voted for a bill that taxpayers were 10 - 1 against just shows you that people are a lot smarter then what we think.
A corrupt government does not mean a corrupt America, a screwed up economy does not mean a screwed up America.
When people stop equating our power to our pocketbooks and our brains to the size our leaders we will know we have made some progress.
The ideology that is the constitution is not what this country runs on. The ideology that is our constitution is still as powerful as it ever was.
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10-09-2008, 04:19 PM
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Still Figuring It Out.
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Re: When will the US Become Completely Socialistic
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The economy is not America, the government is not America. The people that stand for what is America still exist and the fact that congress voted for a bill that taxpayers were 10 - 1 against just shows you that people are a lot smarter then what we think.
A corrupt government does not mean a corrupt America, a screwed up economy does not mean a screwed up America.
When people stop equating our power to our pocketbooks and our brains to the size our leaders we will know we have made some progress.
The ideology that is the constitution is not what this country runs on. The ideology that is our constitution is still as powerful as it ever was.
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Well said...
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10-09-2008, 07:29 PM
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Re: When will the US Become Completely Socialistic
I don't think America will ever be completely socialistic. We have a mixed economy that I believe will ebb and flow given the economic landscape. Those who are not flexible enough philosophically to see when a change in direction is needed will prove to be the problem rather they be from the right or the left.
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10-09-2008, 07:36 PM
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Re: When will the US Become Completely Socialistic
Just as 9/11 brought compromises in our freedoms this economic failure and the fear mongering over it will probably also lead to more compromises.
Half the reason the market falls is over fears. Terrorism is about fear. It is a powerful emotions and leaders and elitests have been using it for years to manipulate people to change....even into hating Jews and being ok with their persecution.
It creates the climate for people to look for a savior...an anti-christ and social, political and economic change
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- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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