Do We Sin Every Day?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

Please announce it's completion and tell us how to order.

Thanks for your interest. It will be quite a while, though, because...

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[BoredOutOfMyMind]

If we sin everyday, does that make us an everyday sinner?

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Hey bro., thanks for the excitement! lol

I preached lately about the STANDING we have in Christ versus our WALK. Standing is the position we have, without necessarily requiring any behavioural change. We are all seated with Christ above sin and all enemies when we're saved. But not until we REALIZE this will we venture forth to expect to see differences in our dealings with sin. So it takes a lot of teaching -- especially from Romans 6 -- to see where we are so we can learn what we can expect, and AGREE WITH IT to WALK IN IT.

The scripture came to my mind, "How can two WALK together, except they be agreed." We STAND "with Christ" in the position of death to sin and power over all enemies. But OUR WALKS refer to our ACTIVITY. We will not see the activity WITH CHRIST until we AGREE WITH HIS WORD about our standing. It is possible to read these scriptures about our deaths to sin, and not actually AGREE with them. We KNOW we should agree with them, but that is only a conscious mental thing. When we really "get it", though, we have revelation, and WE AGREE. So not only are we dead with Christ and buried with Christ and risen and seated with Christ in heavenly places (POSITION), but we can WALK WITH HIM in power. But how can two WALK TOGETHER except they be AGREED?

As far as God is concerned, we are dead to sin and have power over it. WE MUST AGREE WITH HIM, so we CAN "WALK with" him and LIVE that victory!

Watchman Nee, wrote a great book titled Sit, Walk, Stand

Before we learn to walk in faith, we must learn about our authority as a believer, then we can walk in faith, then when we face conflict, warfare, we can stand!

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by keith4him

Watchman Nee, wrote a great book titled Sit, Walk, Stand

Before we learn to walk in faith, we must learn about our authority as a believer, then we can walk in faith, then when we face conflict, warfare, we can stand!

He also wrote a classic: THE NORMAL CHRISTIAN LIFE! It's all about power over sin, and how it's intended by God to be NORMAL experience, when today's church has been so removed from that confidence.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

If we sin everyday, does that make us an everyday sinner?

Nah, just spiritual babies. lol

[Felicity]

The sin issue is never annhilated in the life of a believer. Like Paul said we struggle with the things we ought to do and ought not to do, but I do believe it's possible to live above sin. I don't believe that we have to sin every day. I believe that we can live for the most part an overcoming victorious life.

Paul taught that if we walk in the Spirit we can overcome the flesh, that we will not fulfill the lust of the flesh. So the answer is in walking in the Spirit.

The blood of Christ cleanseth us from sin. It's an ongoing process. If we do sin i.e. transgress the laws and commands of God .... we can ask forgiveness and He is faithful, just and willing to forgive us. Thank God for His mercy, grace and love and for the blood that was shed that we can avail ourselves of.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Felicity

The sin issue is never annihilated in the life of a believer.

Amen. It's not annihilated but it is answered.

Like Paul said we struggle with the things we ought to do and ought not to do, but I do believe it's possible to live above sin.

Amen. Paul ONCE struggled but related past history to us when he wrote that in Romans 7, in order to show us how he learned he did not have to walk in defeat.

. I don't believe that we have to sin every day. I believe that we can live for the most part an overcoming victorious life.

Paul taught that if we walk in the Spirit we can overcome the flesh, that we will not fulfill the lust of the flesh. So the answer is in walking in the Spirit.

Exactly.

So long as we walk after the Spirit we will live above sin.

The blood of Christ cleanseth us from sin. It's an ongoing process. If we do sin i.e. transgress the laws and commands of God .... we can ask forgiveness and He is faithful, just and willing to forgive us. Thank God for His mercy, grace and love and for the blood that was shed that we can avail ourselves of.

Amen.

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

I think there must be a balance. Remember sin is not just a deed but can be an absence of a deed, an attitude, a non-Christian view of an issue, many things. It's not thinking Christ's thoughts after Him. If we think that we can be sinless most of the time it's a low view of God and His righteous requirements and a high view of ourselves. I do believe in sanctification and it will be complete on the moment that I die. Just because I still sin does not exonerate me from the 'sinfulness' of it but I must remember that He's a better Saviour than I am a sinner.

Since sin, at least to some extent, means to miss the mark, would we not be able to say that we sin just by not meeting God's righteous standard?

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Amen. It's not annihilated but it is answered.

Amen. Paul ONCE struggled but related past history to us when he wrote that in Romans 7, in order to show us how he learned he did not have to walk in defeat.

Exactly.

So long as we walk after the Spirit we will live above sin.

Amen.

Amen! LOL!

I'd forgotten about that post I made and didn't realize anyone had replied to it till now.

I have to say MF Blume that I appreciate your understanding in regard to this particular issue.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

I have heard the statement, "we sin every day". While I certainly believe that at our best, we fall short of the glory of God, I find the above statement a bit disturbing. If having the Holy Ghost is incapable of helping us to overcome temptation to sin in a twenty four hour period, or for a couple of days, or maybe even a week, what purpose is there of having the Holy Ghost?

I for one don't believe in the "sin every day" doctrine. I believe it is possible for a child of God to overcome sin in a twenty four hour period. I would like to think that I have the hope that the longer I serve Jesus, the more I mature and the more I can overcome the sin and weight that besets me.

I am concerned that this type of teaching leaves the door open for people to excuse sin in their lives, maintaining the attitude that there is really nothing we can do about it, we just have to "die daily" in repentance and ask the Lord to forgive us and move on and try to do better next time. I believe "dying daily" means more than just repenting every day for our every day sinful lifestyle. I believe dying to ourselves in a deeper since is denying the flesh its sinful urges and ungodly tendencies BEFORE one crosses the line of sinful action. When one is truly dead to self, certainly conviction would settle in and repentance would occur for disobedience, but ultimately deadness to self should result in spiritual victories over sin and temptation.

Have you heard this doctrine preached and do you subscribe to it or reject it?

It depends on the day in question?????