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10-26-2008, 06:40 PM
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Re: Is Separating Boys and Girls a Good Idea?
I think it's best to teach kids proper behavior and let them intermingle. Keeping them apart causes more problems than it helps, I think.
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10-26-2008, 06:46 PM
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Re: Is Separating Boys and Girls a Good Idea?
All I do know is that if I lived back in biblical times, I would want to be in the same room and as close to Jesus as I could be--probably sitting at His feet.
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10-26-2008, 07:13 PM
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Re: Is Separating Boys and Girls a Good Idea?
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In fact women were not even allowed in the temple area. So just congregating in the same building was a major breakthrough, and no doubt was more prevalent among the gentiles than Jews.
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Diagrams of the Temple show that the Beautiful Gate ( Acts 3:2) was an entrance into the Women's Court from Solomon's Porch ( Acts 3:11 and 5:12). It seems that the early believers gathered in that part of the temple. Even Gentiles could access Solomon's Porch.
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10-26-2008, 07:19 PM
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Re: Is Separating Boys and Girls a Good Idea?
I thought camp meetings, youth rallies, etc. were great places for guys and girls to meet and develop relationships. Young people have a lot more choice in a setting like this than just the same ones they see all the time at the local church.
Sure, I can see separate seating during services and separate places at the altar for guys and girls, but they're gonna get together after the service. If they didn't, it would not be quite natural.
Guys against girls in teams and competition? That hardly seems fair.
Guys are generally brawnier and girls are generally smarter.
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10-26-2008, 07:22 PM
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Re: Is Separating Boys and Girls a Good Idea?
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Guys against girls in teams and competition? That hardly seems fair.
Guys are generally brawnier and girls are generally smarter.
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Hope that didn't sound too sexist.
Reminds me of two things:
1. Question: Why are blonde jokes usually so short?
Answer: so guys can remember them.
2. Suspended on a Rope
Eleven people were hanging on a rope, under a helicopter, 10 men and 1 woman. The rope was not strong enough to carry them all, so they decided that one had to leave, because otherwise they were all going to fall.
They weren't able to choose that person, until the woman gave a very touching speech. She said that she would voluntarily let go of the rope because, as a woman, she was used to giving up everything for her husband and kids or for men in general. She was used to always making sacrifices with little in return.
As soon as she finished her speech, all the men started clapping.
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10-26-2008, 07:30 PM
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Re: Is Separating Boys and Girls a Good Idea?
Sam,
Your avatar is making me skeered.
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10-26-2008, 07:59 PM
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Re: Is Separating Boys and Girls a Good Idea?
The Catholics separate their boys from their girls.
Boys = Priests, Girls = nuns.
That seems to have worked really well, huh?
lol
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10-26-2008, 08:53 PM
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Re: Is Separating Boys and Girls a Good Idea?
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This is an ole-time Pennycostal practice. During every service at our campground the boys sit on one side of the church, and the girls on the other. Considering our current culture, Is Separating Boys and Girls a Good Idea?
All of the games are girls vs. boys.
Boys and girls are always pitted against each other in offerings.
I personally think it is an archaic practice. One that needs to go bye-bye.
I want my boys to like girls.
Seems odd that the church wants them to stay away from each other.
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Considering our current culture.......
No matter what the current culture, Teenage boys and girls will be attracted and distracted by each other.
Afraid they will turn gay? Tell a teenager not to do something and what do they want to do more than anything else?
Separate them during services and they just want to be around each other more everywhere else.
Let them sit together...... well, lets enter the mind, emotions and hormones of a teenager for a bit eh?
" Great, I'm looking forward to camp, and all the awesome preaching, all my friends, no parents, and the GIRLS!! WOOHOOO!!!"
Now let them sit together during service.
Awesome, I can't believe she actually said OK! Now I'm sitting right beside her, and she is gorgeous!! I hope all my friends can see me now!
Oh my God, our elbows just touched on the seat armrest, I hope she doesnt freak out..... I hope I don't freak out. Alright now, I have to make sure I worship so her pastor doesnt think I'm a backslider. But I don't want to look wacked out or bump into her.... no wait..... I actually DO want to bump into her!
O Lord her hair is so ...... MAN!! and she has the greatest perfume ever put in a bottle.... Uh oh... I hope she likes my cologne, did I put on enough? I hope I didn't put on too much! I wonder if We can sit together for the next service? Should I ask her right after this one or wait till later? Oh man, here comes the preacher down the isle, he sure is preaching good tonight. umm... I'm not sure what the subject is, but he's preaching it hard! Oh yeah, not giving into peer pressure and live for God all your life, that's right. Oh I sure would love to life for God all my life with HER by my side! I wonder how much she likes me? GULP!! Our legs just bumped!!!!!! OK... OK, don't hyperventilate here, ...did she notice? Did she do it on purpose? Does she think I did it on purpose? I wonder what she would do I I touched her hand?
O lord will this service EVER be over? I wonder if...... whats going on? What the.....? WOW, church is already over! Should I go to the altar like everyone else? Man, there sure are a lot of people crying and pouring into the altar. I wonder what they are crying about? Wow, it looks like God really moved in this service, I'll have to get the cd to hear it. It looks like most everybody was moved by the preaching. I wish I knew what he said.
But hey! At least she is still here beside me! Look at that, everyone around us went to the altar, but she and I are still standing back here..... together!
Maybe she really DOES like me!
And that's the ones who actually came to camp wanting to GET something from God and hear some preaching. What about the ones who only came to get a boyfriend/girlfriend?
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Re: Is Separating Boys and Girls a Good Idea?
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This is NOT why most young people go to camp. It IS to meet and flirt with members of the opposite sex. Why do you think that the typical camp meeting can be so easily confused with a Hollywood red carpet premier (as far as cloths go)?
How sad for you and your children, I would be glad to PM you the location of some conservative camps, where the Word of God is still taught!
Teach the world all you want, but we are still human, and teenager are still children entering adulthood. With childlike discipline and adult like hormones.
13 going on 30.
Why are they conservative? Because it is enforced. Let em sit where they want, hang with whoever they want, listen to whatever they want, do whatever they want, and by next years camp they will make the liberal camps look conservative.
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10-26-2008, 09:18 PM
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Re: Is Separating Boys and Girls a Good Idea?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Charnock
This is an ole-time Pennycostal practice. During every service at our campground the boys sit on one side of the church, and the girls on the other. Considering our current culture, Is Separating Boys and Girls a Good Idea?
All of the games are girls vs. boys.
Boys and girls are always pitted against each other in offerings.
I personally think it is an archaic practice. One that needs to go bye-bye.
I want my boys to like girls.
Seems odd that the church wants them to stay away from each other.
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The separation is a good idea.
1) It makes getting to interact with a girl that much more of a challenge to conquer. If its too easy it won't be appreciated.
2) School systems are actually turning to this as a positive way to educate their children-- allows for greater focus and much more productive students.
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10-26-2008, 09:25 PM
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Re: Is Separating Boys and Girls a Good Idea?
It depends on why you do it and how it's presented. There are times when its appropriate and even needful. But separating boys and girls simply because of an inordinate fear of impropriety or immorality does way more harm than good.
Even the most ultra-con churches have problems with immorality, so the "no-touch" rules obviously DON'T work.
I vote for relaxed but well-supervised environments.
It really irritates me when adults tease children for being in the vicinity of the opposite sex--even when it's obvious they're just interacting on the friendly level. It shows the adult's discomfort with normal situations. I want my children to feel at ease with the opposite sex. There does NOT need to be an "electric" atmosphere simply because a boy sits next to my daughter in class--because that's somehow taboo. Nor am I the sort to go through the roof if a guy slings his arm around my daughter's shoulders.
Kids need to be taught what is appropriate, friendly, or familial--not that touch or interaction is altogether wrong.
I knew a trinity holiness church that taught no touch at all, until marriage. They also taught that father's shouldn't show physical affection to their daughters, and vice-versa for sons and mothers. Weird. And stupid.
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