I can't answer whether or not what I wrote was directed at you. I was directing my remarks towards those conservative and ultra conservative Pentecostals who have the mindset that criticizes the President because he has not instituted a theocracy and decreed into law every moral / cultural position they believe is Christian.
Those folks who are so removed from reality that they don't understand that our responsibility as Christians is to support political canidates and govermental initiatives that MOST represent and support Christian views. Not boycott the system or process and give it by default to heatherns.
I also was thinking of the conservative Pentecostal legalists who would not think twice about imposing their view of morality on the masses if they had the power. I am not speaking about morality in the sense of God's moral law but in their application of Christian principles.
Theocracy is a form of government in which the divine power (for example, in monotheisms, the one God) governs an earthly human state, either in person (e.g., as incarnation in a human being) or, more often, via its religious institutional representative(s) (e.g., church, temple), either replacing or dominating the organs of civil government as clerical or spiritual representative(s) of god(s). [1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theocracy)
Theocracy is a form of government in which the divine power (for example, in monotheisms, the one God) governs an earthly human state, either in person (e.g., as incarnation in a human being) or, more often, via its religious institutional representative(s) (e.g., church, temple), either replacing or dominating the organs of civil government as clerical or spiritual representative(s) of god(s). [1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theocracy)
the problem with thocracies is that there is a human between God and the people. ...humans tend to mess things up.
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I can't answer whether or not what I wrote was directed at you. I was directing my remarks towards those conservative and ultra conservative Pentecostals who have the mindset that criticizes the President because he has not instituted a theocracy and decreed into law every moral / cultural position they believe is Christian.
Those folks who are so removed from reality that they don't understand that our responsibility as Christians is to support political canidates and govermental initiatives that MOST represent and support Christian views. Not boycott the system or process and give it by default to heatherns.
I also was thinking of the conservative Pentecostal legalists who would not think twice about imposing their view of morality on the masses if they had the power. I am not speaking about morality in the sense of God's moral law but in their application of Christian principles.
Participation in the political process is, at least in America, part of rendering unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's. However, there's a difference between that and having an attitude that any earthly nation is our home and culture and, therefore, we have to make it a more comfortable place for Christians to live. You seem to be suggesting that the Bible and living according to Biblical values (including our having the attitude that this present world is not our home and that we have no right to have any loyalty or allegiance to it) is not "reality." I've got news for you: the only reality is the reality of the Bible.
I can't answer whether or not what I wrote was directed at you. I was directing my remarks towards those conservative and ultra conservative Pentecostals who have the mindset that criticizes the President because he has not instituted a theocracy and decreed into law every moral / cultural position they believe is Christian.
Those folks who are so removed from reality that they don't understand that our responsibility as Christians is to support political canidates and govermental initiatives that MOST represent and support Christian views. Not boycott the system or process and give it by default to heatherns.
I also was thinking of the conservative Pentecostal legalists who would not think twice about imposing their view of morality on the masses if they had the power. I am not speaking about morality in the sense of God's moral law but in their application of Christian principles.
CC1,
You actually know some folks like that in real life or is it all in your fantastical world of imaginary Pentecost?
Nice try at the slur but in my almost 48 years experience of being in or around old time Pentecost I know plenty of people who think that way.
CC1,
You know that if I intended to slur, I am quite capable of doing so. I just sometimes find it funny that your 48 years of experience (the majority outside of mainstream oneness thought) qualifies you to pass judgment and make blanket statements as though you were an authority! You have been away from mainstream Oneness philosophy much longer than you were in it so I do not see you as having any validity at all in present term discussions.
And that is not a slur it is a statement of opinion and personal view.
The news article below about a situation in Pakistan made me think this is what we could expect if Conservative Oneness Pentecostals ever governed the USA.
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I would hope that our UC brethren would not impose a theocracy on the total population. However, I have recently visited a community in Waco, TX that reflects a Mennonite type environment and it is "ruled" by some "apostolics." Further, there is a remnant of a group that V. Bean was associated with in Terrell, TX that has a similar rule over their people. So there is good evidence that it could be a very repressive context.
__________________ For it is written, "As I live, says the Lord every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall give praise to God. (Romans 14:11- NASB)
I would hope that our UC brethren would not impose a theocracy on the total population. However, I have recently visited a community in Waco, TX that reflects a Mennonite type environment and it is "ruled" by some "apostolics." Further, there is a remnant of a group that V. Bean was associated with in Terrell, TX that has a similar rule over their people. So there is good evidence that it could be a very repressive context.
The community is called Heritage Homestead, it is a wonderful place to visit, crafts and building trades, blacksmithing etc.
__________________ For it is written, "As I live, says the Lord every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall give praise to God. (Romans 14:11- NASB)
CC1,
You are hilarious. Conservative Oneness Pentecostals are never going to run America! lol
I heard a preacher say, "People call us a cult. They need to stick around and see how much we disagree with each other."
That pretty much sums up our movement.
People are just people and as one having come into a strict conservative church environment when I got in church - all I can say is that I see it morphing into something that is getting closer to what God had intended. Has it happened all over? No, but it will. It will be forced into it.
You know what's causing the changes and the hearts? Tragedy hitting homes like I've never seen before.
Forcing people's minds to stretch outside of their judgment and reach for truth and not baseless ideology. Reaching for what is real and not opinions that rest on sinking sand.
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