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03-11-2009, 10:49 PM
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Re: ~! Todd Bentley, re-married, restored~
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I think a leader can be restored when the fame of their repentance exceeds the fame of their fall.  |
I guess I'm hard hearted, because I would find his repentance and restoration a lot more believable if he had permanently ended the relationship with his young hussy. 
I'm well aware that I sounded like an old fogey just then, and I don't care.
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To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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03-11-2009, 10:59 PM
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Re: ~! Todd Bentley, re-married, restored~
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I guess I'm hard hearted, because I would find his repentance and restoration a lot more believable if he had permanently ended the relationship with his young hussy.
I'm well aware that I sounded like an old fogey just then, and I don't care. |
Yep. I am sort of an Epleyite on this one.
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
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03-12-2009, 04:57 AM
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Re: ~! Todd Bentley, re-married, restored~
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I guess I'm hard hearted, because I would find his repentance and restoration a lot more believable if he had permanently ended the relationship with his young hussy.
I'm well aware that I sounded like an old fogey just then, and I don't care. |
I could be wrong, sounds like this has pushed hot button, something you have seen close up?
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03-12-2009, 07:10 AM
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Re: ~! Todd Bentley, re-married, restored~
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
I guess I'm hard hearted, because I would find his repentance and restoration a lot more believable if he had permanently ended the relationship with his young hussy.
I'm well aware that I sounded like an old fogey just then, and I don't care. |
Sorta like the guy that stole your car.
Then he drives over to your house and asks you to forgive him for stealing your car.
After you forgive him, he gets back into your car and drives it off.
You never see your car again except when you happen to see him driving it around.
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03-12-2009, 07:38 AM
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Re: ~! Todd Bentley, re-married, restored~
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I could be wrong, sounds like this has pushed hot button, something you have seen close up?
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No more than anyone else I suppose. Haven't you seen plenty of ministerial lives destroyed over stupid stuff like this?
Then with the token, "I'm sorry", they're back in business, ex-wife (or husband) and children left to deal with the consequences? I'm for restoration, but it should be restoration to a relationship with God--not to all the perks of ministry. (Mind you, I know that ministry is not all perks--in fact for the average minister, it's mostly NOT perks!)
It bothers me when people desire a position so much that they're willing to say or do anything to get it back.
Something's rotten in Denmark!
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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03-12-2009, 07:38 AM
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Re: ~! Todd Bentley, re-married, restored~
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Originally Posted by Sam
Sorta like the guy that stole your car.
Then he drives over to your house and asks you to forgive him for stealing your car.
After you forgive him, he gets back into your car and drives it off.
You never see your car again except when you happen to see him driving it around.
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Exactly! LOL!!!! Great analogy. 
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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03-12-2009, 08:26 AM
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Re: ~! Todd Bentley, re-married, restored~
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Originally Posted by Sam
Sorta like the guy that stole your car.
Then he drives over to your house and asks you to forgive him for stealing your car.
After you forgive him, he gets back into your car and drives it off.
You never see your car again except when you happen to see him driving it around.
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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03-12-2009, 10:18 AM
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Re: ~! Todd Bentley, re-married, restored~
Could it be remotely possible that Todd Bentley was never in a right relationship with God...That he never obeyed the Gospel...that he was and is a deceiver and charlatan???
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13 You, my brothers, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature; rather, serve one another in love. 14 The entire law is summed up in a single command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 15 If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other. Galatians 5:13-15 (NIV)
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03-12-2009, 10:35 AM
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Re: ~! Todd Bentley, re-married, restored~
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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*
I'm completely out of the loop. I've never even heard of him.
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I've been thinking the same thing.
Excellent article by the way.
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03-12-2009, 10:38 AM
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Re: ~! Todd Bentley, re-married, restored~
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Originally Posted by Sam
Sorta like the guy that stole your car.
Then he drives over to your house and asks you to forgive him for stealing your car.
After you forgive him, he gets back into your car and drives it off.
You never see your car again except when you happen to see him driving it around.
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That is a great story and unfortunately I hear and see variations of it far too often.
Where one brother cheats another out of money/car/wife/other material goods, then asks forgiveness without ANY attempt to make things right, at which point the person who has been cheated is now the bad guy in the eyes of the church for "not forgiving him/her!".
This quote from the article is part of what I am talking about :
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First of all, it is outrageous that Shonnah Bentley, Todd's first wife, does not seem to be an issue in the current discussion. Her name is never mentioned in Joyner's statement—while Todd is mentioned 18 times. We are never told how Shonnah is handling the divorce. How will she manage to care for the three children she and Todd share? She and the kids seem invisible in this process. Yet if anyone needs healing and restoration, is it not the other half of this broken family?
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Many Christians today have rejected biblical discipline and adopted a sweet, spineless love that cannot correct. Our grace is greasy. No matter what an offending brother does, we stroke him and pet him and nurse his wounds while we ignore the people he wounded. No matter how heinous his sin, we offer comforting platitudes because, after all, who are we to judge?
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