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Old 03-25-2009, 08:15 AM
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That is pretty much how I see it.
So you believe in a material covering needing to be on a woman's head when praying or prophesying? I would not have guess this, I would have thought you and your wife viewed this in the traditional UPC interpretation.

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Old 03-25-2009, 08:19 AM
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So you believe in a material covering needing to be on a woman's head when praying or prophesying? I would not have guess this, I would have thought you and your wife viewed this in the traditional UPC interpretation.

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I believe Cor. 11 is primarily discussing headship, symbolized by literal veiling and unveiling. The natural covering of hair is only a supporting argument.

I have not mentioned my wife's views.
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Old 03-25-2009, 08:46 AM
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I believe Cor. 11 is primarily discussing headship, symbolized by literal veiling and unveiling. The natural covering of hair is only a supporting argument.

I have not mentioned my wife's views.
However, you would say that the literal, material veil is not necessary in places where it would not be "comely" (ie. western society)? However, you perhaps would say it would be wise for Christians in India to still keep this custom, since it has a significance to that society's view of modesty?

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However, you would say that the literal, material veil is not necessary in places where it would not be "comely" (ie. western society)?
I am not so sure.


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However, you perhaps would say it would be wise for Christians in India to still keep this custom, since it has a significance to that society's view of modesty?

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This thing is hard to swallow for me.A mans head uncoverd to reprisent the glory of Christ?The womans head coverd to reprisent the fallen nature of man?Almost sounds like the redeemed woman is not redeemed at all.It sounds like all sin stays with the woman and she must cover it in order to worship God!!Whether her hair or a vail is her covering to hide the sin of all man.
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Were you raised in an apostolic home and attended an apostolic Pent.
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What was your teaching concerning the "hair" question?

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Old 03-25-2009, 12:08 PM
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I am not so sure.
Do you not fear that not having this issue settled could cause your wife and daughter to be disobeying the 1 Cor 11 passage, if it is speaking of a material covering, and they are not wearing one?
We have a brother in my assembly who claims to believe in the material covering, and I have spoken with him before, and I reminded him that he was letting his wife go with her head uncovered, and if he believed in the covering so strongly he ought to search it, and decide whether he wants his wife to be the only one with a veil on her head in our assembly, or if he might want to start another assembly.

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If there is anything lacking in the 5-fold mininstry, I believe it is the ministry of teaching.
From home to the church. Training up in the home from the Word of God. If it is taught
in the home from the Word of God, by Spirit-filled parents, it should be supported in the
church and IF it's all from the Word of God, by Spirit-filled ministry, there
should be no disagreement.

God is NOT the Author of confusion and there is SO much confusion in the home. church,
and in the world.

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Old 03-25-2009, 12:49 PM
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Sis. Shawndell,

Were you raised in an apostolic home and attended an apostolic Pent.
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What was your teaching concerning the "hair" question?

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Sister Falla I was raised believing that the womans hair was her glory or thats how I interpreted it.I was raised U.P.C. Maybe Idid not pay attention to everything taught when growing up.I just thought that God wanted us to have our hair long because it symbolizes us as women with power in the holyghost.Sorry about my spelling! haha.
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Sister Falla I was raised believing that the womans hair was her glory or thats how I interpreted it.I was raised U.P.C. Maybe Idid not pay attention to everything taught when growing up.I just thought that God wanted us to have our hair long because it symbolizes us as women with power in the holyghost.Sorry about my spelling! haha.
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Old 03-26-2009, 09:21 AM
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I know this post is a few days old but I just caught the comment about the veil. I have prayed years ago that God would confirm what He showed me about the veil. Can you tell me what you know Sis. Falla 39?
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