Signs Wonders And Knowing Jesus - Page 3

edjen01 · #21 04-08-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976

Edjen01 reread what you just said please you yourself said the book has been rewritten in many diffrent languges many diffrent times that is correct and your right the orignal manuscripts do not still exsist.Without he bible edjen01 you and I and everyone else would not even know about jesus so if youy did not have the bible you would not know jesus therefore could not talk to him as you say you can...(No bible no jesus)the bible is the only way we know of him...

not true friend. Jesus makes several appearances in books that are not included in the canon.

How do people...who have never read a Bible know god?

Michael The Disciple · #22 04-08-2009, 09:46 AM

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No bible no jesus)the bible is the only way we know of him...

Please dont think I am downplaying the Bible. It is our foundation. The source of our hope. There we learn about the ways of YHWH. I also encourage people to read it daily. Memorize it. Give your life to what is written therein.

Yet I must believe if one does that he WILL be contacted by the Author.

You said the Bible is how we know OF HIM. True enough.

But you can also KNOW HIM.

As many as are led by the Spirit are the Sons of God.

KWSS1976 · #23 04-08-2009, 09:52 AM

If people could find Jesus without the bible they would not be a need for the bible it and no need for salvational steps..

KWSS1976 · #24 04-08-2009, 09:56 AM

And I know you are not downplaying the bible I am just saying if someone has not been taught about jesus or even heard of him or something they are not going to know who he is..

KWSS1976 · #25 04-08-2009, 10:04 AM

All I am saying is if whoever would not have put the bible together and no books were found we would not know who jesus is until he came back...

edjen01 · #26 04-08-2009, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976

If people could find Jesus without the bible they would not be a need for the bible it and no need for salvational steps..

not sure about the salvational steps.

the name "Jesus" is used in less than half of the bible...so is all the rest not needed?

the Biblical narrative is so much more than just an introduction to the son of god....it contains science, literature, mathamatics, poetry, history, and yes the most complete writings about a man named Jesus. So to state that Jesus is the only reason to read/need the Bible....I believe sells it far to short.

And yes....I have met people who worshiped the true God from a true heart...and had never read the New Testament.

KWSS1976 · #27 04-08-2009, 10:11 AM

Well god did exsist in the old tesatament so they could worship he created the heaven and earth they did not have to read the New testament

edjen01 · #28 04-08-2009, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976

All I am saying is if whoever would not have put the bible together and no books were found we would not know who jesus is until he came back...

understood.

but this could not happen...per the scripture...as every nation must be told before his return. so if we never heard...he would never return.

I honestly do not think God would go through all the trouble making sure all of the messianic prophecies are fulfilled....only to let the story "die"...due to lack of interest or missing documents. He has proven to be very creative...one might even say super-natural.

edjen01 · #29 04-08-2009, 10:21 AM

I'm still interested in your view of the rest of the Bible. If the only reason to have the Bible is to "find Jesus"...then why have all the rest?...surely there must be some reason.

KWSS1976 · #30 04-08-2009, 10:29 AM

What do you mean by having the rest give me an example please