Obama's Supreme Court pick...

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Man, just google "Obama" and "Reagan" and you will see comparisons were being made months ago.



My comparing Obama to Bush is to draw attention to the fact that REPUBLICANS who are much more morally upright than their Demoncrat counterparts are not being so morally upright when they demonize our Democrat President.

"President Obama has been compared to his esteemed predecessors - John F. Kennedy, FDR, even Abraham Lincoln. One president you don’t hear Obama compared to often is Ronald Reagan.
The two men stand at opposite ends of the ideological spectrum – and have become symbols of their opposing political parties."

http://www.nhpr.org/node/24536

Comparisons of high unemployment rates when they took office and the different responses other than that I am not finding your Obama-Reagan comparisons.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by baron1710

"president obama has been compared to his esteemed predecessors - john f. Kennedy, fdr, even abraham lincoln. One president you don’t hear obama compared to often is ronald reagan.
The two men stand at opposite ends of the ideological spectrum – and have become symbols of their opposing political parties."

http://www.nhpr.org/node/24536

comparisons of high unemployment rates when they took office and the different responses other than that i am not finding your obama-reagan comparisons.

lol!!!!




Brb

[Jermyn Davidson]

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/26/opinion/26cannon.html


A closer look suggests, however, that these two presidents are not as far apart as their partisans and critics believe. For all his thunder about the dangers of big government, Mr. Reagan during his eight years in office preserved the core of social programs that were the basic legacy of Franklin Roosevelt, his first political idol. Mr. Reagan’s high-risk budget director, David Stockman, tried an early maneuver that would have reduced Social Security benefits. After this plan backfired, Mr. Reagan named a bipartisan commission that proposed mild reforms that were embraced by the Democratic House speaker, Tip O’Neill, passed by Congress and extended the solvency of the system for a generation.

Conservatives urged Mr. Reagan to take another run at Social Security or other entitlement programs. He never did. As the columnist George Will observed, Mr. Reagan understood that Americans were indeed conservative, and wanted to conserve the New Deal.

In the early months of his presidency, to the trepidation of the left, Mr. Obama has given signs of being every bit as practical as Mr. Reagan....

[Jermyn Davidson]

http://irishspy.typepad.com/public_s...-obama-is.html


Was Reagan a better friend to gays than Obama is?
John T. Simpson gives a resounding "yes:"

As Prop 6 appeared to be gaining steam as the vote neared, with State Senator John Briggs stoking fears of gay teachers in the classroom with the full backing of California’s right wing, gays and lesbians were terrified that Prop 6 might actually become law. In their darkest hour, they turned to a most unlikely hero and savior: former California governor and conservative Republican Ronald Reagan, then gearing up for his 1980 presidential run.

After hearing the group’s concerns, candidate Reagan not only agreed with them, but became the bill’s most public detractor, even penning a scathing op-ed against it in the now-defunct Los Angeles Herald-Examiner, in which he said the following:

•“Whatever else it is, homosexuality is not a contagious disease like the measles. Prevailing scientific opinion is that an individual’s sexuality is determined at a very early age and that a child’s teachers do not really influence this.”
Ronnie also stated that the same laws regarding the safety of schoolchildren applied to ALL teachers in the state. How’s THAT for progressive thinking from a conservative Republican, in an America not eight years removed from the Stonewall Riots? With former two-time Governor Reagan’s stern and vocal opposition, Prop 6 lost by a million votes. And John Briggs lost his race for governor in the primaries.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Obama And Reagan: Different Ideals, Similar Tone
by Don Gonyea


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=100077084

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/26/opinion/26cannon.html


A closer look suggests, however, that these two presidents are not as far apart as their partisans and critics believe. For all his thunder about the dangers of big government, Mr. Reagan during his eight years in office preserved the core of social programs that were the basic legacy of Franklin Roosevelt, his first political idol. Mr. Reagan’s high-risk budget director, David Stockman, tried an early maneuver that would have reduced Social Security benefits. After this plan backfired, Mr. Reagan named a bipartisan commission that proposed mild reforms that were embraced by the Democratic House speaker, Tip O’Neill, passed by Congress and extended the solvency of the system for a generation.

Conservatives urged Mr. Reagan to take another run at Social Security or other entitlement programs. He never did. As the columnist George Will observed, Mr. Reagan understood that Americans were indeed conservative, and wanted to conserve the New Deal.

In the early months of his presidency, to the trepidation of the left, Mr. Obama has given signs of being every bit as practical as Mr. Reagan....

The comparison is being politically practical not in their ideology, Reagan wanted to reduce government but concluded that once a program was began it was difficult to get rid of. Obama on the other hand finds resistance to his new programs and though he would love to institute all of them he realizes he can't because the people would toss him on his ear.

I can't read the whole article because it won't let me access it.

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Obama And Reagan: Different Ideals, Similar Tone
by Don Gonyea


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=100077084

The comparisons are superficial at best.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Sample blog from the many, many folks who have pondered the comparison between Reagan and Obama:


http://www.fark.com/cgi/comments.pl?...ollars-at-work






Magorn 2009-01-31 08:30:30 AM

Well, let's see:

They Both give a pretty good speech

Obama's a graduate, magna cum laude of Harvard Law School, where he was editor of the Law review

Reagan got a BS from Eureka College

Obama worked as a community organizer, organizing the most impressive GOTV Chicago's South side ever saw, Then as a private lawyer, then as a State and US Senator

Reagan was an actor and sports announcer, became president of the screen actor's guild; served a willing henchman of Sen. Joe McCarthy blacklisting members, made a name for himself in the 60's opposing civil rights and fair housing legislation as violating "states rights". Eventually became governor of California.

Both elected president by wide margins after both being considered a long shot when they began their candidacy

Obama enters office widely praised for his keen intelligence and active engagement on policy matters

Reagan entered office largely considered a Prop by his own staff, and may or may not have been in the first throes of a debilitating disease that destroyed his brain.

yep. No way Obama measures up, almost heresy to suggest it..





I think I have made my point that Presidents Reagan and Obama have been compared-- by professional communicators and commonfolk alike.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

The comparisons are superficial at best.

sure, sure, sure-- a few posts ago, you couldn't find many comparisons between the two.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Obama and Reagan: Mirror Images, Mirror Ironies*
March 31st, 2009
Goto comments
Leave a comment If history does repeat itself, can it happen in a mirror image? Consider the strange similarity (in reverse) between Barack Obama and Ronald Reagan. They are distinct mirror reflections of each other, and if that continues, we just might see a major Obama market rally - in about six years.



There are a number of minor mirror image attributes about Obama and Reagan. For example, Reagan was the oldest president in U.S. history while Obama at 47 is fifth youngest. And both were outsiders but in different ways: one because of his prior career as an actor and the other because of his race. But there are much more significant mirror attributes than those.

Read the rest of the article at this address:

http://www.deathoftime.com/2009/03/3...-under-reagan/