You Are Being Divisive! - Page 3

coadie · #21 07-27-2009, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976

I will use an example the (uncut hair standard)..take that scripture and break it down and study it you will not come up with uncut hair anywhere in there..used to when you ask a OP about it they would run to that scripture..now that people start asking questions about it..they turned it into God Convicted them they don't go and run behind there scripture anymore cause it does not talk about a women not being able to cut her hair

Dr Seagraves did exactly that. In use of original languages and bible study, his findings were about women not cutting their hair. His conclusions were regarding cutting or not cutting. Some african ladies have shorter hair. They can't make it long, but they can control themselves by not cutting it.

KWSS1976 · #22 07-27-2009, 08:22 AM

Post link on Seagraves study on this please

TheLegalist · #23 07-27-2009, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

You are SO correct! I have never understood why questioning is so frowned upon in OP circles. It is immediately assumed that you are "backsliding" if you admit that you question some pet doctrines. It's been one of the greatest frustrations of my life.

If truth is truth, it will withstand questioning. If it won't withstand questioning... perhaps it's not truth?

Oh yes... I mean Oneness circles only do this..... LOL! seriously people.... GET OUT OF YOUR BOX that only OP's argue and divide and don't like questioning traditional views! Baptists are some of the worst. THe whole of evangelical Christianity is constantly dividing overstuff. Though this was not probably what you meant it tends to be the attitude more that I read this board.

crakjak · #24 07-27-2009, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mizpeh

Why is it that when someone challenges a traditional teaching/practice, he is often labeled as “divisive” or a “troublemaker,” and is summarily dismissed? It may be true that the individual has a divisive attitude or is acting in a troublesome manner, but the attitude in which he dissents or questions a particular doctrine/practice is separate from the arguments he presents against it. Someone may be the biggest jerk on the planet, but their attitude has nothing to do with whether their arguments are valid, and their beliefs correct. Simply pointing out their bad attitude does not answer the question of what is true, nor does it excuse us from interacting with their arguments. Labeling and dismissing those who question the mainstream view is often just a power play, usually employed by those without a rebutting argument. It’s a way of avoiding discussion, and having to defend their own point of view.

We always need to be open to the possibility that the person who challenges some traditional teaching/practice may be right, and the traditional teaching/practice may be wrong. If he is right, then he would not be divisive, but a unifier. Unifying what you may ask? Unifying the church with truth. What divides the church is not the person who challenges a particular teaching, but the false teaching itself. We often determine who the divisive party is by counting heads, but this is fallacious. Truth is determined by reasons, not head counts. As William Durant said, “Truth always originates in a minority of one, and every custom begins as a broken precedent.” Indeed, if truth was determined by head count, then those of us who hold to a Unitarian view of God must be mistaken, because our view is a minority view in Christendom. We ought to remember that before we crucify those among us who question an accepted view.

I think part of the reason we tend to dismiss dissenters is because there is this prevailing attitude among us that “we have the truth.” I agree that we have the truth in a basic sense, but this does not mean we have all the truth. We do not. There is always more to learn, and always areas of thought that we need to either change or refine. If we recognize our continued room for intellectual and spiritual growth, and the possibility that we might be mistaken in some of our beliefs, then we are only doing ourselves a disservice by shooting down those who question the mainstream. Let’s hear the dissenters out. They may have something to teach us.

http://theosophical.wordpress.com/20...ive/#more-1564

Very well said, Mizpeh!! I agree with you.

*AQuietPlace* · #25 07-27-2009, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TheLegalist

Oh yes... I mean Oneness circles only do this..... LOL! seriously people.... GET OUT OF YOUR BOX that only OP's argue and divide and don't like questioning traditional views! Baptists are some of the worst. THe whole of evangelical Christianity is constantly dividing overstuff. Though this was not probably what you meant it tends to be the attitude more that I read this board.

Yes, I know that all denominations do it. But since we pride ourselves on having THE TRUTH, why are we so afraid of questions?

KWSS1976 · #26 07-27-2009, 09:23 AM

There ya have it THE LEGALIST AQP even admits it..its The book of Acts or hell...O don't worry about the other books in the bible they don't mean anything...

*AQuietPlace* · #27 07-27-2009, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976

There ya have it THE LEGALIST AQP even admits it..its The book of Acts or hell...O don't worry about the other books in the bible they don't mean anything...

Are you in the same conversation as the rest of us?