And people wonder why when someone mentions holiness, people start talking about clothing.
Bill, what are your standards that you live by that make you dress differently than other modestly dressed men in the world?
A very good question. The standards for me, and they are being built upon, are long sleeves in every situation. Though I personally see nothing wrong with short sleeves, the Spirit has brought me to this conviction. Even in Houston heat, I choose to wear long sleeves. My hair is always short, seeing how the Lord is my covering.
It may seem as if there is no difference, and in appearance, you maybe right, but in Spirit, there is.
A very good question. The standards for me, and they are being built upon, are long sleeves in every situation. Though I personally see nothing wrong with short sleeves, the Spirit has brought me to this conviction. Even in Houston heat, I choose to wear long sleeves. My hair is always short, seeing how the Lord is my covering.
It may seem as if there is no difference, and in appearance, you maybe right, but in Spirit, there is.
Brother Price, would you say that your UPCI brothers who do not adhere to these dress standards which you defend are in threat of a devil's hell? If so what can be done?
A very good question. The standards for me, and they are being built upon, are long sleeves in every situation. Though I personally see nothing wrong with short sleeves, the Spirit has brought me to this conviction. Even in Houston heat, I choose to wear long sleeves. My hair is always short, seeing how the Lord is my covering.
It may seem as if there is no difference, and in appearance, you maybe right, but in Spirit, there is.
Standards for you. Don't you apply those standards to all men? Why not? You do it for women, don't you?
Believe it or not, I have standards. I believe all people should have standards because if you don't stand for something, you fall for anything.
I have been consistent in my beliefs and how I've taught my children to live. They can tell you exactly what I believe in regard to standards and why. Most Apostolic children who follow 'the dress code' can't tell you why they dress that way, except that the preacher says so. That's sad.
I have standards in my life, but like you, they are MY standards and they don't do against scripture. I don't apply them to anyone else.
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Price, you really didn't agree with him, he said he preaches standards, and you said something about Holiness without which no man shall see the Lord.
Exactly. Holiness and standards are inseparable. If one desires to live holy, then standards are among the fruit thereof. No standards, no holiness. Anyone who keeps the line of standards are not holiness are decievers and liars against the scriptures. All area of life means exactly that.
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Which I would agree with you but not with him.
Actually, you disagree with both of us, seems like.
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Where is your biblical tether for standards and holiness?
1Peter 1:15-16 is a commandment for holiness in all areas of conversation. This means that our standards (how we dress, where we go, and what we do) is included in this. As a believer in Jesus Christ, I see it absolutely impossible for a man to be holy on the inside and watch the lies and filth on TV. It is impossible for a woman to have a good attitude and still dress like a man or as if she has no morals. It is impossible for a person to claim modestyand wear jewelry that costs hundreds or thousands of dollars just for appearances.
Exactly. Holiness and standards are inseparable. If one desires to live holy, then standards are among the fruit thereof. No standards, no holiness. Anyone who keeps the line of standards are not holiness are decievers and liars against the scriptures. All area of life means exactly that.
I am not going to fault you for sticking to the party line. It is a synthetic and cultural conclusion to make that if one desires to live holy, then standards are the fruit.
Can you clarify exactly what the "line of standards..." is, then we can compare what we believe is holiness.
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Actually, you disagree with both of us, seems like.
I believe in holiness, a supernatural and abstract disposition that cannot be achieved by physical means unto one's self.
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1Peter 1:15-16 is a commandment for holiness in all areas of conversation. This means that our standards (how we dress, where we go, and what we do) is included in this. As a believer in Jesus Christ, I see it absolutely impossible for a man to be holy on the inside and watch the lies and filth on TV. It is impossible for a woman to have a good attitude and still dress like a man or as if she has no morals. It is impossible for a person to claim modestyand wear jewelry that costs hundreds or thousands of dollars just for appearances.
There is a fine line here, but you are defining holiness through your interpretation of standards. There is absolutely NO biblical correlation between what you call standards in terms of dress that you can tie to holiness relative to the commandment of almighty God.
Again, you hold the party line and you can't be faulted for that, but I do fault you for condemning folks based on your interpretation (notice I did not say your misguided interpretation, you can interpret the man in the moon being the Apostle Paul if you want, just don't condemn me for not agreeing with you)
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