This video was not about lifting up God. It was look at us. The slapping of the lead singers back and the out stretched arm with the finger pointing to the lead singer.
I have noticed in most videos posted on line there will be no one even praying but the instance the 4/4 beat starts they start jumping and running.
This video was not about lifting up God. It was look at us. The slapping of the lead singers back and the out stretched arm with the finger pointing to the lead singer.
I have noticed in most videos posted on line there will be no one even praying but the instance the 4/4 beat starts they start jumping and running.
That's an opinion. Personally, I would not be so quick to be judgemental or presumptive about what they are thinking. There is precedence for praising in conjunction with music. Granted there are different cultures and ways that people are accustomed to praising God. To sit on the outside and assume what they are thinking is just kind of presumptive to me.
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You guys need to loosen up a little....
Do any of you attend an ethnically diverse church?
Yes I do. Our congregation is about 40% African-American. Our praise band played music for our city's annual "believers banquet" and we were the only white folks out of about 500 people. We played our style of music and the folks received us graciously.
I have no problem with all that is going on in the video and there is nothing wrong with people worshiping God in a way that they feel comfortable. But, to call it a move of the holy ghost above other styles of worship is laughable. It is just people having a good time.
I prefer to worship without all the crazyness and I prefer more of a rock sound in worship music.
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That's an opinion. Personally, I would not be so quick to be judgemental or presumptive about what they are thinking. There is precedence for praising in conjunction with music. Granted there are different cultures and ways that people are accustomed to praising God. To sit on the outside and assume what they are thinking is just kind of presumptive to me.
Not quick at all just 67 years of experience watching the changes in apostolic churches.
Yes I do. Our congregation is about 40% African-American. Our praise band played music for our city's annual "believers banquet" and we were the only white folks out of about 500 people. We played our style of music and the folks received us graciously.
I have no problem with all that is going on in the video and there is nothing wrong with people worshiping God in a way that they feel comfortable. But, to call it a move of the holy ghost above other styles of worship is laughable. It is just people having a good time.
I'm not sure that anyone was calling it a move of God above other styles of worship. The impression I got was that some people were downing it. Again, I would be careful about jumping to conclusions about it just being people having a good time. In our services at time we do have "eruptions" like this...not planned...not pushed...and most definitely a move of the Holy Ghost. It most often leads to a time of worship where the style of music shifts and people begin to slow down and worship all over the building. Many, many times we have had visitors get prayed through to the Holy Ghost (with tongues ) in this atmosphere.
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There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chuck Norris lives in Houston.
Either the United States will destroy ignorance, or ignorance will destroy the United States. – W.E.B. DuBois
Not quick at all just 67 years of experience watching the changes in apostolic churches.
Light, I'm just saying that this was not a generic conversation about the general state of the apostolic movement. This was a specific video posted by a member of this church. To say about the real, specific people in this video:"This video was not about lifting up God. It was look at us. " is a bit presumptive in my opinion.
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There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chuck Norris lives in Houston.
Either the United States will destroy ignorance, or ignorance will destroy the United States. – W.E.B. DuBois
I'm not sure that anyone was calling it a move of God above other styles of worship. The impression I got was that some people were downing it. Again, I would be careful about jumping to conclusions about it just being people having a good time. In our services at time we do have "eruptions" like this...not planned...not pushed...and most definitely a move of the Holy Ghost. It most often leads to a time of worship where the style of music shifts and people begin to slow down and worship all over the building. Many, many times we have had visitors get prayed through to the Holy Ghost (with tongues ) in this atmosphere.
I have no problem with the clip.
I think though that there is a segment of people who would consider this a move of God. I have heard many say, "man we had good church tonight" and they are right, it was good church compared to what they were used to but that doesn't mean God was moving because of all the dancing and jumping.
It is a style of church. Just like 30 years ago everyone was into southern gospel and before that people loved the old hymns.
Personally, I feel that self-control should be expected in church. If the church you goes to dances and runs the ailes then you can do that but if folks are more serious at another church then it is best to respect the culture of the church.
About a year ago we had a young evangelist show up at our church and he wanted to show us how to have a move of God. We hadn't hit the second word in the song and he was shouting and spinning all over the front of the church. Well, he then said that we were a dead church and that we didn't have the holy ghost because we didn't join with him in his antics.
Again, nothing wrong with having church that way but to think it is a move of God and spontaneous is reaching just a little.
This video was not about lifting up God. It was look at us. The slapping of the lead singers back and the out stretched arm with the finger pointing to the lead singer.
I have noticed in most videos posted on line there will be no one even praying but the instance the 4/4 beat starts they start jumping and running.
Its our culture to support our soloist by perhaps "slapping the lead singer on the back" at times or even "pointing to the lead singer". I see nothing wrong with that at all. Regardless of how you feel, God was edified and the devil was horrified and because of this musical over 20 souls were baptised in Jesus Name and filled with the Holy Ghost. The Bible is very clear in John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. God did the drawing and thats all that matters. If the video was not about lifting up God there would have been ZERO (and I mean ZERO) souls to have been born of the water and of the Spirit.
As for whats a "praise break"? Well, simple, its taking a break from the normal flow of the service i.e. offering, announcements etc and giving God a praise through any form He deems fit (i.e. dancing, lifting up hands, running the aisles etc). We are an Apostolic Holiness Church and we dont allow the order of worship to hender us from taking time to give God a praise.
Keeping with the spirit of humility, if you having nothing nice to say, there is no reason to say anything at all. If you feel that we were in error, pray that God moves in a light that is more pleasing to Him.
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