Funny that that's all you saw in the post.
God said to be holy, not me.
It isn't all about dress as I have stated elsewhere, but dress is certainly an extension of it.
Incidentally, God said to BE holy. Sounds like an order to me.
But, then again the liberals are all against someone telling them to do something that they "feel" isn't right. It isn't about what someone feels, but about what the Bible says.
Is that clear enough?
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Should men wear shorts? NO.
Should women cut their hair? NO.
Should women wear makeup? NO. (The Bible does have a place for it, but it is only during a time of mourning. Otherwise it is for the harlots.)
Do I love those who reject holiness standards per se? YES.
Will I fellowship them as in eating and visiting with them? YES.
Will I fellowship them for preaching? NO.
Do I consider them to be saved or lost? That's God's decision. My job is to reach all who will not accept the Bible and live according to holiness.
It does say to be ye holy for I am holy. If someone rejects this and refuses to live holy, will they be lost COOPER?
What say you?
So you consider standards a Heaven or Hell issue- There is a seperate thread for that.
Maybe that inspired THIS thread...
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Should men wear shorts? NO.
Should women cut their hair? NO.
Should women wear makeup? NO. (The Bible does have a place for it, but it is only during a time of mourning. Otherwise it is for the harlots.)
Do I love those who reject holiness standards per se? YES.
Will I fellowship them as in eating and visiting with them? YES.
Will I fellowship them for preaching? NO.
Do I consider them to be saved or lost? That's God's decision. My job is to reach all who will not accept the Bible and live according to holiness.
It does say to be ye holy for I am holy. If someone rejects this and refuses to live holy, will they be lost COOPER?
What say you?
Should men wear shorts? NO.
Should women cut their hair? NO.
Should women wear makeup? NO. (The Bible does have a place for it, but it is only during a time of mourning. Otherwise it is for the harlots.)
Do I love those who reject holiness standards per se? YES.
Will I fellowship them as in eating and visiting with them? YES.
Will I fellowship them for preaching? NO.
Do I consider them to be saved or lost? That's God's decision. My job is to reach all who will not accept the Bible and live according to holiness.
It does say to be ye holy for I am holy. If someone rejects this and refuses to live holy, will they be lost COOPER?
What say you?
ANd the 400 Pound preacher needs put down the fork.
Should men wear shorts? NO.
Should women cut their hair? NO.
Should women wear makeup? NO. (The Bible does have a place for it, but it is only during a time of mourning. Otherwise it is for the harlots.)
Do I love those who reject holiness standards per se? YES.
Will I fellowship them as in eating and visiting with them? YES.
Will I fellowship them for preaching? NO.
Do I consider them to be saved or lost? That's God's decision. My job is to reach all who will not accept the Bible and live according to holiness.
It does say to be ye holy for I am holy. If someone rejects this and refuses to live holy, will they be lost COOPER?
What say you?
Rev Dooley and to all those that beleive in the traditions of men and not on sound study of Gods word.
You give a blatent no as whether Men should wear shorts, women pants,makeup and jewlry,and cutting their hair. Yet have you ever taken the time to study the Hebrew and Greek concerning the verses you use for these traditions you hold to as doctrine? I have and I have counciled many others that have confirmed my studys. I went to God with honest heart to find and make sure what I preached was the word of God. I wanted to prove what I preached was right. (standards)
Stop taking scripture out of context, and not putting the way things were when written into concideration when making up you "standards of Holiness" Because you just make a fool of yourself in the eyes of others that know better. II Timothy 2:15 Study to show yourself approved unto God, a workman that will not find himself ashamed, that has rightly divided the word of God. Im sorry for comming accross this way But the word is not that hard to understand. Deut 22:5 men and women both wore dresses (robes) this was not about women wearing pants it was about trying to present yoursef as the opposite sex. As for men wearing shorts maybe you should study the way men in the bible girded up their loins when they rode astradle a horse or donkey or worked in the feilds their legs were uncover above the knee, I could go on with the rest of your thou shalt nots but that is not my place It is time for the true christians to study Gods word for themselves and stop taking the word from the pulpit as gospel. Ephesian 4 tell us God gave the ministry to the church for the edifing of the church and the equiping of the saints to do the work of their own ministry. Where do you find that God called you to tell the saints how to dress based on you or your elders convictions. Be ye therefore holy as I am holy has nothing to do with dress with the expeption of modisty or in the exstreme. To be holy is to bear the fruits of the spirit, and longsuffering, gentleness, meekness, are part of being holy Galations 5.
One last statement Jesus never said the world would know us by our dress he said the "world would know us for our love One for another" and so far I don't see that with holiness preachers, I see lip service. I see the atitude of the pharisee of Jesus time. Oh man I have gone past the point of no return again I am sorry I just get passionet about this subject. so am going to stop.
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Should men wear shorts? NO.
Should women cut their hair? NO.
Should women wear makeup? NO. (The Bible does have a place for it, but it is only during a time of mourning. Otherwise it is for the harlots.)
Do I love those who reject holiness standards per se? YES.
Will I fellowship them as in eating and visiting with them? YES.
Will I fellowship them for preaching? NO.
Do I consider them to be saved or lost? That's God's decision. My job is to reach all who will not accept the Bible and live according to holiness.
It does say to be ye holy for I am holy. If someone rejects this and refuses to live holy, will they be lost COOPER?
What say you?
Wow
I used to define holiness that way but but I could not find any where in the bible that made a list like that in discribing holiness. Now the works of the flesh yes but a holiness standard based on dress no!!! If you want to dress one way that is your conviction but know that separation from the world has nothing to do with the way you dress ohter than one being modest. It was less then 300 years ago when common people Christian and sinner dressed the same way where was the sepration then? Performance based religions have a Pharisee attitude and Jesus told us what he thought of that when he said they would travel land and sea to make one convert and make them seven times the child of hell as they were.
Romans chapter 14 tells us that weaker christians should not judge those that are stronger in Christ and that is just what you do. Jesus said judge not lest ye be judged. Just because a Christian does not wear the same clothes as you do does not mean they are not a child of the king. If God has given them the Holy Ghost he has recieved them who are you to say they are not saved?
You say they just want to be like the world, I say they have studied the word of God and found that the traditions of holiness are not founded on sound word of God and have left holiness churches to grow spiritualy in God in ways holiness churches will never grow because they are too wrapped up in the outside that God could not speak to them if they had on a hearing aid.
I guess it is at this time I should say I am sorry if I offended you. But you have blatently offended many true Christians by your holyer than thou attitude
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To the Holiness Apostolic that keep standards, dress codes, separation rules, obeying Pastors rules etc, etc....................
Anyway, you know who you are.
Are the Non-holiness Apostolic brethren that were shorts, haircut make up wearing ladies....etc that believe one God Jesus Name baptism, Acts2;38 believers..........well...
To the Holiness Apostolic that keep standards, dress codes, separation rules, obeying Pastors rules etc, etc....................
Anyway, you know who you are.
Are the Non-holiness Apostolic brethren that were shorts, haircut make up wearing ladies....etc that believe one God Jesus Name baptism, Acts2;38 believers..........well...
Are we your Bretheren??????
I thought the poll was for traditional 'holiness' standards keepers to answer.
At least four of the six who voted so far aren't in that group. It skews the poll results if everyone answered.....cause of course those who don't follow those standards will answer 'yes'.
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In order to be right in God’s eyes, I feel that we are required to assemble ourselves with a group of like minded believers, by not forsaking the assembling of ourselves in the house of the Lord. Sitting under the direction and leadership of a man called and anointed by God. We need to be fed by the word and without doing this, you will die a spiritual death. If you are not doing this, you are completely out of the will of God and you will be lost.
Re: A question for the Holiness Apostolics.....
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