David Kaiser What if he is right?

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by DAII

Esther, you have posted quite of few of these ... your agenda against Obama is obvious.

Isn't this not unlike your agenda aginst the things you see as being wrong or harmful????Or any of us for that matter.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

Isn't this not unlike your agenda aginst the things you see as being wrong or harmful????Or any of us for that matter.

oh wow!

Way too many negatives for this question to make any sense!

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

I knew this was a hoax while I was reading this.

No one of this man's alleged educational calibre would write the way this paragraph is written.



There are so many folks who really, really HATE OUR President, without any good reason.

It's not just a matter of politics for many folks.


There is nothing that President Barack Hussein Obama could EVER do right or good in their eyes.

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

When I think about it, it maddens me. So I choose not to dwell on it.

It works both ways. If we had a Republican President in office, the media and the Dems would be ripping him apart.

However just being opposed to someone for ideological reasons does not mean you hate the man.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

I knew this was a hoax while I was reading this.

No one of this man's alleged educational calibre would write the way this paragraph is written.



There are so many folks who really, really HATE OUR President, without any good reason.

It's not just a matter of politics for many folks.


There is nothing that President Barack Hussein Obama could EVER do right or good in their eyes.

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

When I think about it, it maddens me. So I choose not to dwell on it.

I don't think it's Barak Obama himself, personally that the "loyal opposition" is so put off with. It's just a sign of how polarized our whole country is.

The Dems used the Great Depression as a tool to entrench themselves in power. With only a couple of exceptions (once in the 1950's and once in 1990's) the Dems have controlled both Houses of Congress and have written all of the laws and all of the budgets for the past 80 years.

They really felt like they were entitled to power and the media and academia were used to further the Dems power base.

Then, along comes Ronald Reagan and for the first time since Eisenhower it looks like the Republicans might make a showing. It took many more years, but eventually they did wrest power away from the Dems for a few years during Bill Clinton's admin.

This caused the Dems, the media, academia, the Unions and the whole Democrat power base to freak out badly. Then came the razor slim victory of GWB in 2000, and the Left has been on loony over-drive ever since.

Unfortunately, many Republicans took notice of the Dems' practices and have adopted similar tactics. They used the "scandal weapon" to keep Clinton on a leash just as the Dems had tried to use it on Reagan. Problem was, Clinton really did have some scandals to hide!

Now there are voices on the Right who shout shrill things about BHO hoping to find something that sticks. This is reminiscent of the tactics of the Dems that gave Reagan the nickname of "The Teflon President" - none of the accusations stuck.

The birthers and a portion of the Tea Party crowd seem to have throw reason aside. They just keep throwing stuff out there and it does get tiring. In fact, these types of tactics (by both "Wingnuts" and the "Loony Left") remind me of the tactics used by Young Earth Creationists.

No one, it seems, is really interested in the truth. They just want to mindlessly shout slogans and attack their philosophical opponents even if it means they have to lie to do so. They feel their lies are justified for the "greater truth" as embodied by their respective creeds.

This is all wrong, of course, but it also seems to be a big part of human nature.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

It works both ways. If we had a Republican President in office, the media and the Dems would be ripping him apart.

However just being opposed to someone for ideological reasons does not mean you hate the man.

For you this is true. For many others, I am not sure. I tire of reading and/or listening to "Conservatives" who are supposed to be a bit more educated and balanced finding every little reason to criticize him-- usually their criticisms are overexagerated.



I don't think that the media and Dems would rip any Republican apart unless they gave them ample reason for it.

I can remember the time where GWB was not butt of every political joke from the left. In fact, things really did not get bad for him until about 2005, as far as his every move being critiqued and attacked.

The "Swift Boaters" were dirty IMO and there was a strong element on the left that never forgave GWB's tolerance of the "Swift Boaters" tactics.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Brother David

No one, it seems, is really interested in the truth.

So true.

However, I do think that our President is one who strives to seek balance.

For the President who has his own party dominating in both houses of Congress, he isn't allowing the Democrats to take the country too far left of center at all.

I have said it thousand times, but our President is more conservative than most Democrats realize and more conservative than most Conservatives want to acknowledge.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

For you this is true. For many others, I am not sure. I tire of reading and/or listening to "Conservatives" who are supposed to be a bit more educated and balanced finding every little reason to criticize him-- usually their criticisms are overexagerated.



I don't think that the media and Dems would rip any Republican apart unless they gave them ample reason for it.

I can remember the time where GWB was not butt of every political joke from the left. In fact, things really did not get bad for him until about 2005, as far as his every move being critiqued and attacked.

The "Swift Boaters" were dirty IMO and there was a strong element on the left that never forgave GWB's tolerance of the "Swift Boaters" tactics.

Bush became the butt when the Dems realized public opinion was against the war THEY Signed off on in congress. Then they pointed fingers away from themselves at Bush and Republicans. And even now, after having won the election they blame Bush and republicans for a lot of stuff.

Here are some things to think about. Barack ran on the ticket that he was gonna get our troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan...so far that has not happened.

He ran on a platform of fixing the economy, but now we are more in debt than ever before.

Democrats and Republicans both do it, and unless you straddle the fence of the middle road and are a independent, you are gonna be biased for or against one side more than the other...

As far as I am concerned, the both do it, they both get us into trouble. Neither keeps their campaign promises, which makes them essentially liars, they both blame the other side rather than admit they screwed up (Democrats were complicit in the war and in our bad economy along with Bush). They both point fingers at the previous administration (Republicans like to blame Bill Clinton for things, like the lending law that pushed banks to lend to people that could not pay it back). They are two sides of the same coin. They have the same basic over all agenda with slight domestic differences.

[Nitehawk013]

Originally Posted by DAII

Yet another desperate internet hoax ...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/proportions.asp

Sigh.

Snopes only argues that who it is credited to is incorrect. It makes no judgment on the content, which is dead on.

[Nitehawk013]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

Very similar parallels could, and have been, drawn about Bush's term and it is just as true as the rise of Obama. But the cons don't like it when truth is revealed.

The fact is that across party lines we are marching lock step down the same road we have seen other civilizations march in throughout history and it happens whether there is a democrat or a republican in office.

This country's politics is owned lock, stock & barrel by international bankers & global business interests. They own the dems. They own the republicans.

I am constantly amazed at how many people can see the wrongs on "the other side" so clearly and yet cannot see the wrong on their side. Of course that is why the 2 party system works so well to achieve their purposes. It keeps people bickering over the placement of the furniture while nobody even notices that the ship is sinking.

Now... I'm not saying that you cannot see the wrong on both sides. That will be up to you to demonstrate. I am just saying that this is the case on a large scale basis.

Parties are flawed. I did not mantion a party. I mentioned an ideology. Liberalism. It is a filthy mental and moral disease.

I see no reason to love the GOP or the Dems. They are both flawed. They are both bought and sold as you stated. However, I have to vote for someone so I choose to vote for the GOP because as bad as many of them are...they are not as bad as the Dems.

[Nitehawk013]

Originally Posted by DAII

This post might be the dumbest, asinine and ignominious in AFF history, NiteGawker.

You get the EL TORO EFFIE.

You've been back about what...2 weeks? I think you have that award wrapped up 100 times over for yourself. No need to try to bestow it on others when you are so fluent in poppycock and nonsense yourself.

Why are you in the politics thead anyways? Isn't your "one hit wonder" MO to constantly attack all things UPC and conservative better suited in the more generic section of the Fellowship Hall?