Re: Bernards Apostolic Identity Article in Feb PH.
Ice, kewl avatar. Lot of Amish around there? Are you accociated with any?
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Re: Bernards Apostolic Identity Article in Feb PH.
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Originally Posted by iceniez
No but if you go back far enough in my mother's family they were Amish,and I visit Amish country in Ohio often.
Awe shucks! So I guess we can't post incognito here in my first language of Pennsylvania Dutch?
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
Re: Bernards Apostolic Identity Article in Feb PH.
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Originally Posted by Hoovie
Even that being the case it changes nothing - actions speak louder than codified documents.
Love for others is a UPC characteristic. I see them opening homes, arms and wallets to would be homeless strangers. Many are poverty level themselves but outgive some professionals with much greater incomes because they love people, love Jesus and His gospel.
Re: Bernards Apostolic Identity Article in Feb PH.
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Originally Posted by DAII
Of many of the people ... yes.
I know many good people who happen to go to UPC churches. I firmly believe that many of the people in UPC churches are real Christians.
However, as an organization, there seems (at least to me) to be an exclusivist, judgmental attitude towards anyone who is non-UPC. I could not, in good conscience, be part of a church/organization that says that those who have not been baptized with the name Jesus (and maybe some titles like "Lord" and/or "Christ") being verbalized by the one doing the baptizing; and that those who have not spoken with tongues; and that those who do not give a certain percentage of their income; and those who do not follow a specific dress code will not go to heaven.
That, folks, is the reason I go to a "trinity" church.
Re: Bernards Apostolic Identity Article in Feb PH.
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Originally Posted by Sam
I know many good people who happen to go to UPC churches. I firmly believe that many of the people in UPC churches are real Christians.
However, as an organization, there seems (at least to me) to be an exclusivist, judgmental attitude towards anyone who is non-UPC. I could not, in good conscience, be part of a church/organization that says that those who have not been baptized with the name Jesus (and maybe some titles like "Lord" and/or "Christ") being verbalized by the one doing the baptizing; and that those who have not spoken with tongues; and that those who do not give a certain percentage of their income; and those who do not follow a specific dress code will not go to heaven.
That, folks, is the reason I go to a "trinity" church.
I concur Sam, with your observations, both that there are a number of wonderful people in the UPC, sincere christians who love their brother and their nieghbors and treat people, even people who don't believe exactly like they do, right.
Herein lies the whole reason WHY I am not going to the Winterfire 2010 event here locally this weekend. Because the last time I encountered UPC people, including a pastor, from up here they treated my daughter and myself like we were something they scraped off their shoe.
And I will not subject my family to that. There are a lot of folk in the UPC that I admire and enjoy freindships with, but the org itself? I wish them revival and a move of God, but they can keep their elitism... not interested.
And the funny thing is... me and mine live up to all their standards... what a gas.
Re: Bernards Apostolic Identity Article in Feb PH.
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Originally Posted by Sam
I know many good people who happen to go to UPC churches. I firmly believe that many of the people in UPC churches are real Christians.
However, as an organization, there seems (at least to me) to be an exclusivist, judgmental attitude towards anyone who is non-UPC. I could not, in good conscience, be part of a church/organization that says that those who have not been baptized with the name Jesus (and maybe some titles like "Lord" and/or "Christ") being verbalized by the one doing the baptizing; and that those who have not spoken with tongues; and that those who do not give a certain percentage of their income; and those who do not follow a specific dress code will not go to heaven.
That, folks, is the reason I go to a "trinity" church.
I see what you are saying, but I would not attribute that to an exclusive, judgmental attitude. It rather is born of a very literal reading and the strong conviction that one must invoke the name of Jesus at baptism and speak in tongues as the apostles did when receiving the Spirit.
I believe they are absolutely right too... for Oneness Pentecostals. I stop somewhere short of saying all Christians must experience it as OP to be genuine and valid.
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
Re: Bernards Apostolic Identity Article in Feb PH.
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Originally Posted by iceniez
I do understand a little german.......Try me
Ich bin neght tsu gut un des. - Penn. Dutch
Ich bin nicht an diesem zu gut. - German
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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