Muslims Stand Up For Jesus

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We know the Muslims do not know Jesus for Whom He really is, however, it makes you stop and think about how the church sits back when Muslims BAN a rock singer for degrading Jesus.




http://www.spinner.ca/2010/05/06/elt...sus-sexuality/

Elton John Banned in Egypt Over Remarks About Jesus
Posted on May 6th 2010 11:30AM by John D. Luerssen


Elton John has been banned from performing an upcoming gig in Egypt as a result of remarks he made earlier in the year that suggested Jesus was a "super-intelligent gay man" and accused Middle Easterners of being homophobic. The New York Daily News reports John's May 18 concert was canceled by Mounir al-Wasimi, the head of Egypt's Music Union.

Jesus is considered a prophet to worshippers of Islam, and John's remarks are considered an insult to the religion. John, who first came out in the '80s, is married to David Furnish.

"A homosexual who wants to ban religions, claimed that the prophet Issa [Jesus] was gay and calls for Middle Eastern countries to allow gays to have sexual freedom [can't perform]," al-Wasimi reportedly told Contactmusic.

In a February interview with Parade magazine, John also condemned countries in the region, which are largely Islamic, for hating on homosexuals. "Try being a gay woman in the Middle East – you're as good as dead," he said in that article.

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Try going there and openly preaching Jesus on the streets and see how much they stand up for Jesus.

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BTW you have a faulty comparison. This was a government action. The church is not the government so we have no power to ban Elton John or otherwise

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

BTW you have a faulty comparison. This was a government action. The church is not the government so we have no power to ban Elton John or otherwise

I know the issue is secular. However, the government of Egypt is influenced heavily by Islam, whereas Christianity does not have that sway here. And I am not saying we need a Dark Ages Christianity either, N.O.W., whew! Maybe churches should endorse homosexual singers, huh?

It was not because John is homosexual that he was banned, since he had this concert booked and is widely know to be homosexual. But it is because he made this statement about Jesus.

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Originally Posted by mfblume

I know the issue is secular. However, the government of Egypt is influenced heavily by Islam, whereas Christianity does not have that sway here. And I am not saying we need a Dark Ages Christianity either, N.O.W., whew! Maybe churches should endorse homosexual singers, huh?

It was not because John is homosexual that he was banned, since he had this concert booked and is widely know to be homosexual. But it is because he made this statement about Jesus.

Yes, of course, Michael. Just because I think it's insane that the church should take a similar stance to a government that bans people they don't like, sure, go ahead and stretch it to me wanting to have churches endorse homosexual singers. Great connection, there.

But you do realize, don't you, that EVERY TIME we sing a song written by a gay, or have them sing, or buy their records, and everybody in the building knows they're gay, we ALREADY HAVE endorsed them!

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N.O.W.

Put the shoe on the other foot. Just because I said Muslims stood up for Jesus, did not mean I condoned their misguided attempts as though I think we should be legalistic and likewise move governments to ban the likes as well. Talk about a great connection there.

They stood up, albeit erringly. We should stand up more the correct way. That was my point.

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Originally Posted by mfblume

I know the issue is secular. However, the government of Egypt is influenced heavily by Islam, whereas Christianity does not have that sway here. And I am not saying we need a Dark Ages Christianity either, N.O.W., whew! Maybe churches should endorse homosexual singers, huh?

It was not because John is homosexual that he was banned, since he had this concert booked and is widely know to be homosexual. But it is because he made this statement about Jesus.

Most Islamic governments are influenced by Islam, but that is for a number of reasons. They really are not democracies. They are theocracies. They are Islamic governments. We do not have a Christian government.

christians Do try to influence the government here, but since this is no longer a Christian society and Christians gave up torture of heretics and terrorist acts centuries ago, we have no ability to force our government to stone gays to death or burn at the state anyone that dares speak against Jesus.

In fact it's partly because of our American freedoms that Christianity has been so strong and Oneness has emerged as a movement.

The comparison is unwarranted

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Most Islamic governments are influenced by Islam, but that is for a number of reasons. They really are not democracies. They are theocracies. They are Islamic governments. We do not have a Christian government.

christians Do try to influence the government here, but since this is no longer a Christian society and Christians gave up torture of heretics and terrorist acts centuries ago, we have no ability to force our government to stone gays to death or burn at the state anyone that dares speak against Jesus.

In fact it's partly because of our American freedoms that Christianity has been so strong and Oneness has emerged as a movement.

The comparison is unwarranted

As I thought I clarified, I am not condoning the manner Islam stood up, but the fact that they did, and how Christians needs to stand up more the correct way!

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Try going there and openly preaching Jesus on the streets and see how much they stand up for Jesus.

Personally, I felt the issue was more on Elton bringing up "homosexuality" than the reference to Jesus.

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Personally, I felt the issue was more on Elton bringing up "homosexuality" than the reference to Jesus.

I felt the other way. But I think Elton John would have been banned for either remark even if he never said the other.