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07-08-2010, 12:27 PM
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Re: Your not Oneness but rather Patripassionist
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Originally Posted by mfblume
Not true oneness. I never believed that and I am oneness. That is what I meant by saying true oneness does not believe these things.
David Bernard wrote about the Oneness and always denied that flesh was deity.
Bernard had the best outlook on oneness that I read.
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This is the 1st time I hear this. Every Oneness Church I ever visited or attended said Jesus was God...
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07-08-2010, 01:23 PM
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Re: Your not Oneness but rather Patripassionist
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This is the 1st time I hear this. Every Oneness Church I ever visited or attended said Jesus was God...
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I guess we come from different parts of the country. I never heard anyone thought flesh was deity until I got on these forums.
Read THE ONENESS OF GOD by David Bernard. He explains it clearly as I believe it.
Jesus is God, though. I just re-read this post you sent and thought I better respond with more words. When we say Jesus is God we are not saying the flesh was deity.
Are you saying Jesus is not Father, Son and Holy Ghost as per His person?
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07-08-2010, 01:41 PM
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Re: Your not Oneness but rather Patripassionist
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This is the 1st time I hear this. Every Oneness Church I ever visited or attended said Jesus was God...
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As a matter of fact it is a dangerous venture to say anything other than Jesus is God.
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07-08-2010, 01:47 PM
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Re: Your not Oneness but rather Patripassionist
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As a matter of fact it is a dangerous venture to say anything other than Jesus is God.
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Right. I read his post too quickly to see he did not agree Jesus was God.
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07-08-2010, 02:28 PM
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Re: Your not Oneness but rather Patripassionist
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I guess we come from different parts of the country. I never heard anyone thought flesh was deity until I got on these forums.
Read THE ONENESS OF GOD by David Bernard. He explains it clearly as I believe it.
Jesus is God, though. I just re-read this post you sent and thought I better respond with more words. When we say Jesus is God we are not saying the flesh was deity.
Are you saying Jesus is not Father, Son and Holy Ghost as per His person?
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I guess I will have to check it out.
Jesus the human wasn't the Father, the Spirit that dwelled in him was. The Holy Ghost comes from the Father which to me is the Father.
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07-08-2010, 02:29 PM
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Re: Your not Oneness but rather Patripassionist
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As a matter of fact it is a dangerous venture to say anything other than Jesus is God.
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Are we talking flesh or Spirit here?
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07-08-2010, 02:37 PM
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Re: Your not Oneness but rather Patripassionist
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I guess I will have to check it out.
Jesus the human wasn't the Father, the Spirit that dwelled in him was. The Holy Ghost comes from the Father which to me is the Father.
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The single person of God manifested as Father, Son and Holy Ghost. No one said the human was the Father when we said Jesus is God. Jesus is the name of the single person of God. That person manifested as all three offices. But the name is synonymous with the person, so Jesus is Father, Son and Holy Ghost. The flesh is not synonymous with person. But the Name is.
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07-08-2010, 02:38 PM
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Re: Your not Oneness but rather Patripassionist
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Are we talking flesh or Spirit here?
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That is the point. You must have thought FLESH is inferred in oneness when we say Jesus is God.  No, it is SPIRIT that is inferred, or even better, the single person.
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07-08-2010, 06:31 PM
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Re: Your not Oneness but rather Patripassionist
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I guess I will have to check it out.
Jesus the human wasn't the Father, the Spirit that dwelled in him was. The Holy Ghost comes from the Father which to me is the Father.
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David Benard teaches Jesus Christ had a DUAL nature which is a thought I do not agree with.Scripture is very clear who Jesus was..He no where claimed to be God not one time anytime nowhere.God cannot be seen,Jesus made known the Father to the world but to say when someone saw Jesus they were looking AT the Father in a human body IMHO is not scriptural..
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07-08-2010, 06:38 PM
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Re: Your not Oneness but rather Patripassionist
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Originally Posted by SRM
David Benard teaches Jesus Christ had a DUAL nature which is a thought I do not agree with.Scripture is very clear who Jesus was..He no where claimed to be God not one time anytime nowhere.God cannot be seen,Jesus made known the Father to the world but to say when someone saw Jesus they were looking AT the Father in a human body IMHO is not scriptural..
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2 Corinthians 5:18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
When I read that to me it's saying God was in the Anointing (The Spirit.)
Dual nature meaning half man half God?
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