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08-10-2010, 09:37 AM
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Re: HMD, Coon & DKB recognize past failures
Only 3 out of 10 make it, huh? The one my husband and I started made it. Guess we're not such losers after all, eh?
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08-10-2010, 09:39 AM
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Re: HMD, Coon & DKB recognize past failures
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Geekette ... here is the original post .... not sure if the image is still posted:
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It's gone with the wind...
I will note that these standards are certainly not immutable...back in the day, it wasn't modest unless the skirt came down to mid-calf and the sleeves were below the elbow. I never heard of the collarbone rule; the rule was, rather, "does it show cleavage?"
Hard to preach something as modest or for all time when the standards are ever-changing.
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08-10-2010, 09:42 AM
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Re: HMD, Coon & DKB recognize past failures
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Only 3 out of 10 make it, huh? The one my husband and I started made it. Guess we're not such losers after all, eh? 
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The church made it but did you guys?

Coon said that their research showed that many, if not most, of these men leave the fellowship.
And the question is why???? ... is it because of ideology or is it disillusionment of promises not fulfilled or both?
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08-10-2010, 09:46 AM
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Re: HMD, Coon & DKB recognize past failures
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It's gone with the wind...
I will note that these standards are certainly not immutable...back in the day, it wasn't modest unless the skirt came down to mid-calf and the sleeves were below the elbow. I never heard of the collarbone rule; the rule was, rather, "does it show cleavage?"
Hard to preach something as modest or for all time when the standards are ever-changing.
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08-10-2010, 09:50 AM
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Re: HMD, Coon & DKB recognize past failures
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Where is the guy's version?
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Why, holiness standards are only for Jezebels like me that need rules and guidance! Men know how to dress properly.
No matter that the standards also serve as a way to limit a woman's literal freedom of movement. I still can't get over a sister in the church I went to who wore jeans under her skirt so she could go horseback riding or the ladies up in Alaska who wore snow pants under their skirts so they wouldn't freeze.
I've studied (informally) cross-cultural religious expression and have come to the conclusion that in more conservative expressions of various religious belief systems, women are more limited and have more rules than men in matters of dress.
*shrug* It becomes a problem for me when it's made a matter of "holiness or hell." Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.
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08-10-2010, 09:53 AM
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Re: HMD, Coon & DKB recognize past failures
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Why, holiness standards are only for Jezebels like me that need rules and guidance! Men know how to dress properly.
No matter that the standards also serve as a way to limit a woman's literal freedom of movement. I still can't get over a sister in the church I went to who wore jeans under her skirt so she could go horseback riding or the ladies up in Alaska who wore snow pants under their skirts so they wouldn't freeze.
I've studied (informally) cross-cultural religious expression and have come to the conclusion that in more conservative expressions of various religious belief systems, women are more limited and have more rules than men in matters of dress.
*shrug* It becomes a problem for me when it's made a matter of "holiness or hell." Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.
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Yet have you ever sat on the first row of pews and look up on the stage to see a 350 pound preacher man in a form-fitting business suit, two sizes too small .... sitting spread eagle or unfolding his legs? Talk about UNGODLY.
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08-10-2010, 10:00 AM
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Re: HMD, Coon & DKB recognize past failures
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Yet have you ever sat on the first row of pews and look up on the stage to see a 350 pound preacher man in a form-fitting business suit, two sizes too small .... sitting spread eagle or unfolding his legs? Talk about UNGODLY.
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And you were looking why Dan??????????????????????????????? JKJKJKJK
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08-10-2010, 10:08 AM
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Re: HMD, Coon & DKB recognize past failures
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And you were looking why Dan??????????????????????????????? JKJKJKJK
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Froggy, I don't care what you say ... size matters.
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08-10-2010, 10:16 AM
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Froggy, I don't care what you say ... size matters. 
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But Dan. That's what she said!
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08-10-2010, 10:20 AM
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Re: HMD, Coon & DKB recognize past failures
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Why, holiness standards are only for Jezebels like me that need rules and guidance! Men know how to dress properly.
No matter that the standards also serve as a way to limit a woman's literal freedom of movement. I still can't get over a sister in the church I went to who wore jeans under her skirt so she could go horseback riding or the ladies up in Alaska who wore snow pants under their skirts so they wouldn't freeze.
I've studied (informally) cross-cultural religious expression and have come to the conclusion that in more conservative expressions of various religious belief systems, women are more limited and have more rules than men in matters of dress.
*shrug* It becomes a problem for me when it's made a matter of "holiness or hell." Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.
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This is so ignorant is luaghable, and it is a practice of a church I used to attend.
IF the garment of a man ( in this case jeans or snowpants) is an abomination for a women to wear , how does putting a dress over it unabominate the article of clothing.
This thinking is beyond ignorant.
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